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It's funny that you talk about a nostalgia of analog sounds, I'm one step behind and miss the noises of nature, especially forest noises. Taking a stroll in the wood was the OG white noise in term of relaxation/well being. If you live in the city you're usually hours away from that, I bet we can already find teenagers who never experienced these noises in their entire life

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bet we can already find teenagers who never experienced these noises in their entire life

I knew a guy, 30 years ago, who grew up in Toronto, moved to Ottawa, and got there by taking the bus.

He had literally never been outside, unless in the downtown core of a large city. Never.

And this is in Canada! Wtf!

How do you move from Toronto to Ottawa? I thought Toronto was IN Ottawa.

Toronto and Ottawa are two separate cities afaik, any chance you're thinking about Ontario ? Which is a province

Ottawa is the capital city of Canada. -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa

Toronto is the capital city of the Canadian province of Ontario. -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto

Doh! Thanks. I confused Ottawa and Ontario.

I don’t know how you grow up in a city and don’t end up in the exurbs occasionally. His parents must have been absentee I’m guessing.

Police and social workers have noticed that it's somewhat common with youths integrated into gangs often never leave the "safety" of their neighborhoods. Their encounters with the justice system may be their only experience with leaving their neighborhoods.

I can’t imagine a major american city that doesnt have good access to woods or mountains to be honest. All the major ones have some urban parkland. Did you have any in mind?

Las Vegas comes to mind.

There are lots of parks, arboretums, and forest preserves where I live but very few places within them where you aren't subjected to sounds of traffic from nearby roads, trains, or from planes and other air traffic overhead.

Those sounds have the opposite effect on me: they make me feel uncomfortable. They remind me that there's an unknowable amount of life all around me, causing an uncomfortable uncertainty. Being in an actual forest is extremely uncomfortable due to climate, dirtiness, uneven terrain, animals, insects...

Werner Herzog was famously recorded in “Burden of Dreams” saying something like “This jungle sounds like death and decay. Birds here scream in terror. The terror of being alive”.

"Overwhelming and Collective Murder..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze9-ARjL-ZA

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