Other sales roles have similar gender wage gaps.
And then there is Only Fans and sex work.
When it comes to some types of employment, most men just can't compete on looks with young attractive women.
Other sales roles have similar gender wage gaps.
And then there is Only Fans and sex work.
When it comes to some types of employment, most men just can't compete on looks with young attractive women.
Ten years ago it was still unimaginable when talking about regular people, now completely normalized. Remarkable.
They never even hinted 'sex'. Probably sex work, from people who in other times had other job opportunities besides selling their body online.
>Do you mean that sex is a product of a degenerate society?
So, answering your question, widespread sex work, yes.
Sex work irreparably destroys one's ability to desire or enjoy intimacy. A core function of what it means to be human is completely erased.
Through first hand experience, I have gone from being completely pro-sex work to now viewing it as an evil industry.
Safe, legal, and easily monetizable sex work is a boon for young pretty women. Attractive men don’t generally have that avenue available to them, for example as a way to pay for college.
I’m not really sure it’s a boon for society. It’s purely to placate lonely men who are unable to get a partner. I don’t know any men who pay for onlyfans content and have a partner.
I think widespread sex work is a failure of society and I’m pro-sex work. It usually means you’ve failed men and commoditized sex and relationships.
I wouldn’t lament that sex work being safe and profitable is bad for society. But I also don’t think OnlyFans is significantly inducing demand, and I wouldn’t describe this as “taking” money from lonely men, it seems like a fair economic exchange to me.
I don’t have the hard numbers but I think staying single, being alone (and lonely), are huge and growing issues in modern society.
The internet providing easy & cheap access to dopamine as a coping mechanism is probably better than increasing alcohol or drug use, but certainly isn’t a “good” thing. All of them of course have the potential for addictive and compulsive use.
I don’t see a problem with commoditizing sex when it’s outside the scope of a committed relationship. Not all sex is about meeting an emotional need, and that’s perfectly fine as long as it’s safe and consensual.
Young men are certainly being failed in many ways and seem to be quite lost in the culture wars. My unscientific opinion is that this is compounded by the many environmental toxins pushing down T levels, modern K-12 educational pedagogy catering heavily to girls, and societal change around masculinity and the increasing impossibility of celebrating male gender roles.
It’s a weird argument to say that the cure for incels is to socialize sex work. It’s not going to solve anything. Most men don’t want just sex - they want a relationship too.
The truth of the matter is that we’ve gone past women needing men - and in our current culture… most women don’t really want men regardless of their T levels or role models. They sometimes want the idea of a man (Instagram, TikTok, etc.) but they don’t want the reality.
I don’t think there’s any real cure for this except third spaces coming back and a deemphasis on our extremely commoditized and capitalistic ways. Neither of which will happen for the next 50 years.
I think most people do want a loving partner, if not more than one. Women definitely don’t “need a man” in the historical sense that they couldn’t really survive and be a respected part of the community without one.
Pregnancy, childbirth, and raising children in a nuclear family is still pretty essential for a lot of people, although it can happen a lot later in life now, so there’s a large window in their 20s for women now where they will often outearn and outperform males their age, which certainly makes those men less attractive.
Are they thrilled when they realize men, don't think of them as potential wives after they have become virtual (or real) prostitutes?
It's no all black or white but let's not treat OF as the next best thing after running water, I wouldn't be surprised if it was, as many other websites (social medias cue), a net negative when you start looking at the broad/long term impact
As always with tech, what was once ok at a small scale doesn't necessarily stays ok when it becomes a world wide "1-click" away phenomenon accessible to virtually anyone over the age of 12 with half a brain
It's not a stretch to observe society as degenerating when we have continuously normalized blatantly degenerate behavior with clear harm to younger members of society.
What you're arguing, whether you realize it or not, is that equality is only important for the richest in society.
I can't stand behind that, nor do I think most can.
At every sales and sales adjacent job I've experienced the top salespeople where always men.
This should lead us to ask the two following questions. A) Why are men choosing to go into sales if they are offered less than women for the same work? B) Are there other intrinsic values that sale jobs include or is not included that influence the job decision?
Either way I'm not really sure that counts as a sales job in a more general sense.
This isn’t because women outsell men or because of the attractiveness of a waitress. It’s because waitstaff are tipped and back of house employees (generally) are not.
> young attractive women in sales jobs often do very well
Young hot men also do very well in sales lol.
There is lots of research showing that the more attractive the customers find waitress the more they get tipped. Even straight women seem to tip attractive waitresses more.
Even more ironic, because I’m both cases it us about sex, and women control the sexual domain; women in both of these dynamics are squandering and running unrealized value.
These dynamics are at extreme civilization ending levels, as sooner of us will surely experience first hand, likely sooner than we may think, because the effects are extremely lagging because there are several phases that must be stepped through before the terminal state becomes apparent.
There are some people who push this for political or marketing reasons (think about how much money Andrew Tate or Jordan Petersen have made this way) but a lot of it depends on selectively ignoring the evidence. All of the men who I’ve heard talk like this have some combination of unrealistic expectations (Elon Musk can party with rock stars because his wealth is measured in hundreds of billions; J. Random IT Worker needs to bring more to the table) or, almost universally, being unwilling to accept that their attitudes and politics were the underlying cause. This can be tragic where you know women who are looking for men who won’t rape them or treat them like NPCs and men who are convinced that the problem is their lack of abs, and the latter spend all of their time hanging out with other men telling them to treat women as NPCs and only considering the hottest people they know.
With 10x the streamed content, 7x the consumed content doesn't feel too crazy. The next male streamer has a similar profile, also doing pretty much daily streams.
But maybe amouranth just deletes the videos after they're streamed? Again, I don't know how Twitch works.
If you're a woman in a mostly younger male audience platform you get the viewers. All you need is an attractive body and a nice dress.
Ibabyrainbow 21 year old wearing braces showing off her body 1.5k viewers.
I'm not into ASMR but holy crap licking microphones for "the ASMR" where the girls are dressed in tight dresses with perfect make up, where you can guess that the microphone is really a penis replacement. 100% female domain. How many want to see a guy licking a microphone? 5% most likely with the odd spike for curiosity.
I'm saying on average the females have it easier to attract viewers, that is also the traditional female field. You don't have to provide content, your body is content. Idk if you have noticed that women mostly like to film themselves on stream because they know that the males watch them for their looks. Male cameras are mostly turned away from them filming their surroundings.
As a male streamer you need special equipment, at least so they think, so you can stream in 1920×1080 with redundant modem and sim card setup, while female streamers don't bother with the weight and just use a 720p smartphone.
There are of course always exceptions and I don't claim to be an expert. I've only been watching this field since this summer and those are my observations
>Mothers were identified as the perpetrators in all of the neonaticides and were the most common perpetrators overall (71.0%; 95% CI 63.9%, 77.2%).
It's not that hard. Hit the gym, stop eating junk food, dress smarter. You can do it too.