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I like it, but it relies on too much luck once all logical deduction is exhausted: I feel like it needs another clue source in there. Perhaps giving you a flop card for free would be enough.

Another thing is to accept any answer that would explain the bronze/silver/gold.

Or what would be cool is take WSOP actual games, show the action and the cards, and you guess the flop/turn/river.

> Another thing is to accept any answer that would explain the bronze/silver/gold.

Then all you would ever need is one guess.

Yes agreed. Had everything dialed in except a card that I only knew to be a spade and no helpful information from the ranks. Just had to exhaust my guesses numerically.

I didn't realize it on first playthrough but since the rank is ordered on the flop you do have a clue that way

Got to this point as well. But it requires a certain amount of logic and intelligence to put together the process of elimination test efficiently. Got mine on try 6.

Wait, my pokle question was:

    Liz: Qd Qc, 2nd, 1st, 1st
    Riz: 4s 9s, 1st, 2nd, 3rd
    Siz: 10d Ad, 3rd, 3rd, 2nd

I got it in 5, and my answer had no spade in it. Did we have different pokles?

I had the same question as you

I lied

The rules drastically limit the needed guessing with the "No random kickers" rule:

    The rank of each board card will alway be a part of at least one player's hand in at least one phase.

I had to guess because one of the three flop cards were uniformative

Have played this for a week now. Took me 3-4 days to understand the no-kicker rule. Once you do, the game becomes a lot easier.

I almost wish there were kickers. Maybe modify it to no kickers in the turn or river.

Any answer that explains the rankings is too broad. That takes no luck and you should get it first time. I get what you mean though, there is a bit too much luck

You get an additional clue that there are no “kickers” on the board. Quoting from the the help:

“No random kickers on the board - The rank of each board card will alway be a part of at least one player's hand in at least one phase. Note: "part of a hand" means the significant card(s) in: Pair, Two Pair, Three of a Kind or Four of a Kind (not kickers) TLDR: You may have to guess a card's suit with no clues, but not it's rank”

It’s fun to guess cards that make hands better or worse, but it’s a bit tedious to make repetitive random guesses for the inconsequential cards.

There shouldn't be any (see[1]) and in today's puzzle, there aren't actually any.

BTW, that makes the game less realistic and interesting Poker-wise, IMHO.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33770866

I came up with a poker-wordle-ish game idea, and that was higher/lower. You enter a hand, and it told you if your hand was higher or lower.

Maybe a bit basic though, adding a texas holdem flop-river reveal could have made it more interesting

Related - Wordle for Stable Diffusion: https://diffudle.com/

Edit: this was only mentioned by the author in an HN comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33728208), so it might still be work in progress - works for me however ;)

Is this a troll? I immediately get hit with a "You win!" popup telling me I took 6 guesses without even getting to play.

Strange, works for me, and I have played it on three different days now... However it's a project of another HN user that they only mentioned in another thread, so it might still be work in progress.

Thanks for posting this!! :)

It's ..... based on your IP. But not only is it based on your IP, some IPs are buggy and just automatically "win" with 6 guesses.

Looking at the javascript, the author is obviously very new to web development, so probably a bug on their side.

Edit: yeah, a bug on the backend as I suspected.

Or they didn't want to use cookies for fear of GDPR :) ? But I'm not sure you can get off the GDPR hook by collecting IP addresses instead of setting cookies actually...

You can’t. It’s worse, in fact, because users can’t delete them.

Yes, that's why I was moving to LocalStorage based model but this created two different sources of truth which was the whole cause of bug. I'll fix all the issues and delete all data in cloud ASAP. :)

I wanted to view user's activities to make sure the puzzles aren't too easy or too hard. But seems using IP to do this is wrong.

I don't think there's anything wrong with storing the game state on the server, but you should use a session cookie rather than making it based on IP.

Likewise

Sorry!! I made some really fatal changes a few hours ago, that's why it wasn't working. You can try now.

Just to clarify though, there's not meant to be any indicator for "right letter, wrong position"? If there is, it's not working.

I had every rank from the first guess and then had to use two more guesses just to find the appropriate suits with the only information being that I needed to avoid putting a flush on the board.

I like it, and would be interested to see some entropy analysis like what 3bl1br did with Worldle when it first got popular.

Curious how the measurable information entropy changes with guesses across these different types of games... I have a feeling that while Wordle can get to a point where you're stuck with even guesses, I doubt it would happen as often as with this Pokle game.

> I had every rank from the first guess and then had to use two more guesses just to find the appropriate suits

Exact same.

I will be interested to see how other puzzles compare.

Wait until you see Wordle for Riichi Mahjong :-)

https://mahjong-handle.update.sh/

I love that one! I find it kind of amazing that it works at all with so many possible tiles and hands, though I guess them being in order helps a lot.

I wish this had a colorblind mode. Wordle has one.

Why is red/green such a common color palette? One in twelve men is colorblind. (Interestingly the rate is 1 in 200 in women.)

Colour psychology. Red = danger, green = good.

Western color psychology.

Red is considered a very lucky color in China.

And I guess this is why red is positive (is green negative?) in much of East Asia in finance.

Hence the emoji for chart increasing being mostly drawn as a red line

https://emojipedia.org/chart-increasing/

> (is green negative?)

From the link at your link, yes, negative is green in Japan.

https://blog.emojipedia.org/why-does-the-chart-increasing-em...

Men? Women? So 2019...

I know you are joking, but I wish to fast forward to the world where it's common to use non offensive terms like birthing person/non-birthing person.

> Interestingly the rate is 1 in 200 in women

I was told this is because the responsible gene is on the X chromosome, so having two X reduces considerably the odds of having 2 failing ones.

I got it in my third guess, but my first guess was correct apart from the suits.

Same here, this particular puzzle didn't seem so hard and I know nothing about Texas Hold'Em except for the meaning of flop/turn/river.

Same.

Fun game. Let's see if I keep coming back like wordle and quordle.

Doesn’t work well on iOS. The white home bar overlays the input controls

https://i.imgur.com/VjcvtTD.jpg

Edit; also the layout is breaking my brain. Each pair of hole cards side by side like every poker website, book, or broadcast would be 50x better

Also also… don’t like the 2 step since it doesn’t make clear which cards already e its in the hand, and you’re already at 24 buttons… 46 wouldn’t be that much more, even

Not sure if it's frequency bias, but when did the perceived "Poker == Texas Holdem" happen? I remember when I was learning about Poker as a kid/teenager in Europe I didn't hear about that variant, then I didn't play for a bit and suddenly there's only Texas Holdem.

I certainly can't speak in general but I noticed it enter my circles of friends when the World Poker Tour and Celebrity Poker Showdown games started on TV ~2003. Around that time it seemed like everyone I knew was suddenly interested in Texas Hold'em (before that I had basically only ever played 5-card draw).

The movie "Rounders" came out in 1998... that was what did it for myself and my friend circle.

My guess would be during the US poker boom around 2003ish. Texas Hold Em had for quite a while been the variant of poker used by the largest tournaments, and during that boom a lot more people learned about competitive poker and started playing it online.

As for why Texas Holdem is the most popular variant for betting poker, it’s a variant that is not too complex, offers a lot of opportunities to infer information about other player’s hands due to minimal private information compared to other variants, and has multiple opportunities for betting. It works well from both a competitive and watchability stand point.

I tried to keep playing this, but it seems like todays puzzle is just straight up in correct?

The interface says the player with pocket nines has a straight on the river but is still 2nd place behind the player with 2 pair 8s and 10s

None of my guesses made any sense in the incorrect framework

Awesome game! Not sure what everyone else is saying - I found it easy to understand and it works fine on iPhone

Which one? Anything with a physical button (NB: 2019+ iPad Pros do not have a button) doesn’t have the issue, but they don’t have a home bar.

There’s also a huge difference between iPhone and iPad here. iPad puts the share/tab buttons in the main top bar, and page content goes all the way to the bottom of the screen. (Disclaimer: kickstand case so I’m in landscape.)

On iPhone there is a dedicated bar for those below the content, so it doesn’t affect the UI, as the home bar goes below THAT.

Adding this to my list of wordle-like games: https://github.com/prakhar897/awesome-wordle/blob/main/READM...