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I own a bunch of AMGs and this seems fairly reasonable to me.

It’s always trivial to squeeze more power out of these cars with software modifications. The cars do not come out of the factory like that because of reliability concerns.

To me this just reads like manufacturer-warrantied chiptuning. The interesting question will be whether or not this can actually compare with external chiptuners when it comes to performance.

HN doesn’t like subscriptions, but 1.2k/yr for a warrantied high quality tune from the manufacturer would be a great deal compared to what is available right now.

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Electric motors don't have valve timing or fuel ratios or anything that would normally require a chip tuning.

This is thousands of dollars of year to change the MAX_TORQUE_ALLOWED to a different value already tested, nothing more.

Turning up MAX_TORQUE_ALLOWED will almost always increase failure rates.

Selling a warrantied MAX_TORQUE_ALLOWED increase makes perfect sense.

Of course, it’s tough for us to know without getting someone to leak internal numbers.

This requires you to keep paying long after you're out of warranty - not that car warranties are worth much anyway

This is how it starts. Look at the game industry for how it ends up. Usually not good for the consumer.

“Slippery slope” is generally a poor argument, especially without strong evidence regarding it’s existence.

If they fuck this up and piss off their customers, that’ll just mean that BMW or VAG will take the sales instead.

No. Because of market power, if they can rake in more money with pricing strategies like this, BMW and VAG can also raise their prices.

Not really. They can try, but there is also the used market which is much less likely to fall for this.

The used market will probably demand to know if this was ever enabled so they can pay less for your abused car.

The used market will probably bypass cars with heated seat subscriptions (at least where it gets cold) to the point where they have to make it permanent just to keep the trade in value high enough that the old owner can afford the next car.

Saying that saying something is a slippery slope is a fallacy is itself a fallacy

Somehow I don’t recall using the word “fallacy” at all.

Cool. That’s irrelevant since you accused the OP of the slippery slope fallacy. That accusation, and the stating that all slippery slopes need extreme proof, is known as “the slippery slope fallacy” fallacy

No, I did not accuse anyone of any fallacy.

You should learn to read and understand English before making yourself look like a complete idiot by autistically screeching about fallacies.

I’ll hold your hand: Not all slippery slopes are fallacious, I never suggested that the one presented earlier was. I suggested that without supporting evidence it’s a weak argument, that’s strictly different than calling it an outright fallacy.

There are easier ways to admit you’re wrong than ad hominems. Cheers

>There are easier ways to admit you’re wrong than ad hominems. Cheers

You’re just demonstrating that you don’t even know what ad hominem means.

“edgyquant is an idiot; therefore he is wrong” is an example of an ad hominem.

“edgyquant is an idiot” is merely a statement of fact

How does it feel being so pathetic that you have to substitute “insult” with “ad hominem” in a desperate attempt to seem smart?

The world will be a better place once you’re diagnosed with a terminal illness, hopefully that day arrives soon.

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Except this slope is so worn down from use that EA had to install stairs.

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