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Unrealistic.

Not a single person complained about link not working with JavaScript disabled.

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Since it was missing there I realized how am I overusing '[-]' instead of scrolling. Like Tarzan swing on vines.

(Also is this relavant or am I just piggy-backing your top comment?)

In 10 years of reading hacker news I never thought to press the [-] until this moment.

I always assumed [-] subtracted a point from that comment.

Doesn’t [-] set it to zero?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck

[-] collapses the replies so that you can easily see what's next. On reddit the equivalent functionality is a button literally called "hide child comments."

But as another comment mentioned, you can click root | parent | prev | next to get navigated through the thread. Personally, I prefer the collapse, though, as having the top of my screen move without my direct control is a bit jarring, but there's more functionality from these buttons.

Important fact: The [-] does not remove a point. After you get 500 points, you earn the privilege of down voting, you will get a "down triangle" underneath the "up vote up triangle" that you can click on.

> In 10 years of reading hacker news I never thought to press the [-] until this moment.

I thought you had to click the [-]. How do I press the [-]?

I don’t understand if I should click or press [-] What does it do?

Don't do it! If I understand it correctly, every time you use it, it takes away one of your valuable internet points.

A friend of mine did this too many times. He is in rehab now. His wife left him, his liberal left kids commited suicide etc. Harsh times.

How can you click OR press something?

> I thought you had to click the [-].

I cannot click anything on my phone.

Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1053/

Wow. I just realized the [-] feature. This changes everything about HN!

And I just realized “root|parent|prev|next” despite being ride or die with [-]

I call it the "minimize bullshit" feature. Reddit also has it.

I might actually read more of the top level comments below the first one now.

Kinda relevant, because [-] doesn't work with JS disabled. :-P

It could, however, with CSS like this: https://iamkate.com/code/tree-views/

I don't think Firefox or IE properly support it yet :P

Discussed on HN:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33667270 (2 days ago, 68 comments)

Most useful comment on the whole thread. Thanks for the tip about the [-].

It can be even better. With a little bit more JavaScript.

https://github.com/plibither8/refined-hacker-news

Have you heard about our lord and savior root|parent|prev|next ?

> our lord and savior root|parent|prev|next

You are welcome! My very small contribution to the system (I asked and "pushed" for it) - of course, Dang and/or his team implemented it. It is pleasant to read about it in such appreciative terms.

Hey that's awesome! They work really, really well for the way I read HN. Thanks for suggesting this, and thanks to 'dang et al for the implementation!

You've earned true universe karma points there. Thank you.

I wish they would just rewrite the website in a safe language like Rust.

I have stuff to say about JIT.

I have a correction to your understanding of JIT.

*zig

Rust feels too 2019

As a ruby guy, does it really matter which language it's written in if it works?

As a Perl guy: yes. :(

There is no escape.

As a Perl guy: yes. :(

Warning all, don’t paste this into your shell!

I would love to talk about zig!

Or PHP

And lets put the comments on the blockchain.

Everything is better with blockchainTM

Or about how React bloatware introduces tens of petabytes of completely unnecessary dependencies, is destroying the Web, a perfectly-designed hypertext platform for linking documents together for reading on all manner of devices from screenreaders to Braille interfaces and toaster ovens.

Nodding along .... - “oh shit this is a parody thread”

Also missing:

How does this compare to X? (where X is an obscure project on github with no documentation of what it's feature boundaries are, has at best 1000 stars and further internet sleuthing suggests its at best only tangentially associated with the original comments domain.

The end result being the author feels obliged to figure it out and reply incase not doing so seems arrogant and/or poorly educated in the domain)

Oh no, not a mere 1000 Facebook likes!

Not a single person went on about vue

No Svelte either, I'm in shambles.

As a JavaScript guy, does this really matter for 95% of the world?

Or complained about accessibility

Even worse, not a single comment about Rust and use-after-free bugs.

... and no one about site's contrast or scroll hijacking...

Or back button hijack

Off-topic aside, but why do people complain about back-button hijack when you can long-press or right-click and get out of the site? It works on any browser AIUI.

Why do sites do a back-button hijack if it’s possible to use the long-press menu-select feature?

Because it’s nowhere near equally convenient or standard to do so.

1. Long press doesn't show full history, it limits to 10-15(? Might be more). I've seen the occasional scummy background script that exploits this with numerous scripted redirects (usually pages with seo snippets cloned from SO). You have to disable the network to go back without being re-redirected, then go through a couple rounds of the back button history to get back to your original page.

2. If you're not using a full browser or are set up to keep a short history, you're basically SOL (Materialistic for HN has a built-in WebView, and I've used similar apps for other sites)

3. I shouldn't have to use history just because some site decided that it should add multiple history entries when I tried to scroll down an infinite list. I'm only on your website because it showed up in a search result, I'm not here to browse other unrelated content.

I'm just replying here to piggyback on the top comment and create a pointer to this thread in my CheckRepliesToMyComments page.

Obligatory xkcd reference.

I predicted something similar a long time ago (2022) here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680851

This.

Why isn't this at the top?

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