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Comment by encryptluks2 | Hacker News Reader

Any private end-to-end encryption solution could be considered a hideout for pedophiles or drug trade.

Similar things have been said for people who pay with cash.

Used by "people with something to hide", and by people with dignity - people who deem it inappropriate to allow being tracked: "people with everything to hide".

Any hotel could be a haven for drug dealing and prostitution.

Wickr didn't require a phone number for account registration or identification so it attracted a higher proportion.

So E2E chats in Telegram have the same problem.

Every good thing can be used by bad people.

Telegram needs a phone number to sign up.

Telegram needs to store your messages in an unencrypted manner on their own servers but hey, at least no one "else" can see any of your message over the network due to their awesome E2E support.

Oh wow, looks like Signal requiring a phone number strikes a good balance.

No it doesn’t.

Yea, it is.

As you can only pick two of three choices to protect:

- identity

- its message content

- resistance to forgery

Wickr is hardly the only platform with end-to-end encryption not requiring phone numbers. The same applies to Matrix, for example. That's not a valid rationale or explanation for shutting down a platform.

So just move to Matrix clients (Element, Fluffychat) or Wire, Session, Tox, etc.

I think Wire also moved to enterprise only, sadly. At least it appeared that way last time I visited.

TIL so replace in my list Wire with Briar

unlike say, Walmart and Purdue.. very legal there

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