I have a family and that's super nice, but I still never really experienced this. Reading about it just hurts. Sure, I had "friends"in college, but we don't keep in touch.
I have a family and that's super nice, but I still never really experienced this. Reading about it just hurts. Sure, I had "friends"in college, but we don't keep in touch.
Nah. This is just a self-made bubble. Even without any activity outside work, you can still meet friends' friend and family's friend. There's always new people to talk to.
I've made a lot of friends outside work since adulthood, from various sources. Just last week, I made a new friend at a mutual friend's party, and played a duet together. We've scheduled to play another next month.
Another friend of mine just made 11 new friends outside of work last month, as he joined a baseball amateur league.
Just go do what you enjoy, and talk to people. If you share a common interest, and have no big clash in personality, that's probably a budding friendship.
The moment you get injured or sick, friendship is gone. Same goes for hobby groups.
Way more likely is that when people stop going for whatever reason, the relationship ends. Getting injured or sick or having new kid and less time or whatever all means you disappear.
If there’s currently nobody at all (outside work and family), go out with coworkers. Invite their friends. Go hiking or skiing or something. There are tons of activities out there.
A friend of mine moved to a different country last year, and is in a similar situation: living and working far away from her team; no coworkers in her vicinity. So, now she mainly hang out with her new neighbors, and friends made from dancing class.
I have been methodically taking turns trying all of their in-person events.
Hiking groups are dominated by retirees who have trouble relating to me socially. I have not found a reading club that meets IRL. The "philosophy meetup" is a bunch of 25-year-old crypto bro edgelords. I keep going to tech meetups, some for over a year, but everyone at them either goes with coworkers or is really apathetic and alienated.
This doesn't help if you're trying to bootstrap from nothing.
> just join a sports league
I spent solid chunks of childhood being forced into sports programs when I at best had below-average physical abilities. I even tried one summer as an adult to play in a league and I discovered that the physical gap had just widened and widened and it just helped isolate me until I quit going.
It's really great that people find things like sports leagues or meetups useful for this, but none of it overlaps with my mostly solo activities.
Unfortunately, that's how it is if you don't share interest with the extroverted crowds: you're just stuck looking for scraps.
There are also other events where you naturally meet people. I’m just throwing out some ideas, if case they are helpful.
For instance, taking group classes. My girlfriend made quite a few friends in her Muay Thai class.
Dog walking. My college friend recently adopted a dog, and has since known a lot of other dog keepers.
You can meet other computer people at conferences, too.
I myself is quite introverted, too. But being introverted doesn’t mean you are left with scraps. There are still occasions where interacting with other people is both necessary and natural. If you put yourself in those situations from time to time, you’ll find a few who fit your rhythm.
Another thing is to offer a helping hand to people. Owing each other favors is the most effective bonding agent in my experience. I have a personal rule of “always be helpful”, and I think that has earned me quite a few very earnest friendships, despite my being not very chatty at all.
I think this might be a self fulfilling prophecy.
I’m 40 and I’m still making friends. I don’t see why there must be some sort of magical age limit.
Imagine there’s another one of you. Wouldn’t you want to be friends with them?
Holy shit, that's a really thought-provoking question.
I wonder how many others would answer "probably not".
To me, this isn't about liking me, who wouldn't!
It's more about being identical. Even if a friend shares the same likes, interests, hobbies, they have a different view on it. Their brain thinks via a different process.
I don't want a mirror as a friend.
Yeah but finding the other ones like you is incredibly difficult. People in their 30's and 40's with zero friends looking to make new ones are basically non existent where I live.
Why would they need to have “zero friends”. It is not like people have a max number of friends they can have.
One person was really blunt with me: "you're a pretty cool guy, but I don't have time/space in my life for new people". Other people are less blunt but the same principle applies.
edit: But maybe that's my British instincts wrongly diagnosing a statement that I have no real context to judge better.
I just feel that if it were possible to track every time that sentence is said it would probably be significantly more often used as a polite excuse rather than as a truthful statement. (And even then, that's my gut feeling / assumption, I may even be wrong about which use is more common).
Interests connect and these guys hardly ever meet or met someone that intersects as much, so they clear their schedules (as do I) to foster a friendship.
I met most of my friends, business partners and clients this way. Overlapping interests and chance encounters.
I meet plenty people on internet in subreddits with the same interests and sometimes we meet up and then it clicks or it doesn’t.
Most people are just really bad at it; some people here who I try involve in activities always cancel or have ‘better stuff todo’ and then cry, later, that no one invites them anymore or they have no one to play with.
It’s not that hard…
> Imagine there’s another one of you. Wouldn’t you want to be friends with them?
Nice one and yes, I would :)
I've actually been somewhat surprised by how much random people desire connection upon the most tenuous of common interests.
Get involved in something, anything, that you like and slowly reach out to others with the same interests and you'll find friendships. Something I've found though, build them slowly lest they burn out quickly upon a pyre of previously unaware incompatibilities of opinion.
I seem to be an approachable person; being at least a superficially nice person, easy with a smile, seems to make a difference.
My few 'best' friends I see ever so rarely, but when we get together it's like no time has passed. I think that's a true test of deep friendship compatibility.
Basically I'm the guy who keeps in touch with everyone. I have a chat group with guys I met at age 4. Everyone who went to school with me asks me "where is X now" and I'll tell them I last spoke to them not long ago. I talk to my old teachers, across the spectrum from 1st grade to high school. People from various jobs I did 20 years ago, I still know.
So I'm rounding up people for a high school signal group, and even those guys who never say anything to anyone will join it because it's memes and news articles we can comment on. Kinda nice to have all your old buddies there, even with lurkers bring a thing on private groups.
But this one guy, I know him pretty well, been to his house many times growing up, visited his parents, went to each others weddings, etc... Doesn't want to join.
It's just too painful. He feels tormented by some of the other guys in the group. Apparently they tried this some time ago and the chat descended into bullying him like we were in school, except now we're grown up everyone thinks it doesn't hurt anymore.
I really wish there was a solution, but I think it won't happen. Sometimes relationships go off the rails and never come back. I'll still go see my buddy next time I'm near him, but he's cut off everyone else.
This sounds like a similar situation with some of my family. Individually they are OK but as a group they revert to to their childhood personas and can be quite unpleasant and hurtful to be around.
It sounds like you’re prioritizing quantity of friends.
it sounds to me like OP wasn't a participant in this group (and is only after finding out about what happened), though I could be misinterpreting it
Also it wasn't like he was just bullied and shunned, he hung out with those guys too. I even did a road trip with that group. So it was a complicated thing that probably also evolved after school ended.
I don't think I ever thought about quantity of friends as a thing. It's not like it's binary whether someone is your friend.
A lot of people from tiny country/rural towns I think end up in this situation, because we often end up fighting the "Crabs in a Bucket" phenomenon when trying to be better humans, and leaving can be easier. Whilst I do think about people from my childhood and that town, it feels like an entirely different life to me.
I'm not sure where you got that impression. At 51 I'm still making new friends, mostly by seeking people out who share hobbies that I'm interested in. It gives me a base level of conversation to start out with. I recently started up a great relationship with the curator at a clock museum simply by going to his museum and talking clock with him. I go visit him at least once a month now, and he's begun to introduce me to other museum curators in the area. I also made a new set of friends recently by answering a Craigslist ad for a classic car in the area, then going to look at the car and talking to the guy for a couple hours. He invited me to a Sunday drive with a group of local classic car folks, and now I'm part of the group.
At least you got the family part
That's a pretty big exclusion. It is like excluding friends you make at school when you are a kid.
Obviously, to make friends you have to meet them first and preferably spend some time with them. And during adulthood, work is usually where it happens, during childhood, it is school.
I think the reason it happens less often in adulthood is that many people already have an established group of friends, but if life changes break the group people will make friends again.
I had friends in college, but I don’t really keep in touch with any of them these days.
My closest friends are a few I’ve had since childhood, but mostly those I’ve made since adulthood through work and just striking up conversations outside of it.
Try a few new things and put yourself out there. We’re none of us that different and we’re all social creatures.
Prior to Covid I could go out to a bar, strike up a convo with someone (or vice versa) and just chat about stuff, sometimes awkward sometimes not. Now though, no one seems to want to talk, bot sure if something about my demeanor has changed or something. I hate going out now because it usually just involves me slamming down drinks to kill time.
says a lot about our nature, i empathize (even though unlike you I can blame myself a bit for failing this aspect of existence), good luck