I've always wanted to work for Musk, but never felt like I was skilled enough to work on spaceships or cars... But Twitter? I am thinking about applying, so go ahead and quit.
If you want to change the world, are ready to push yourself, work with the most dedicated people, it is.
It’s a place for very few. I would really like to work in one of his company, but I don’t think I have the stamina for it.
Stop drinking the kool-aid.
- Break up the cartel that is mass media + tech giants + democrats
- The control on the narrative determine what people think, how they votes, where the world goes.
- Making this open and transparent will disrupt many entrenched interests.
Huge potential
What get promoted, what get shut down.
It’s clear for most people moderately conservative.
We can agree to disagree. For my part I think we will see massive changes for the better, time will tell either way.
Nah.
1. Work long "hardcore" hours for no increase in pay merely to dig Musk out of the financial hole he put himself in.
2. Clone existing services. Musk's grand ideas for Twitter 2.0 are simply to clone WeChat/TikTok/YouTube/Instagram/OnlyFans.
Yikes.
Maybe for SpaceX.
For Tesla 5 years ago.
For Twitter 10 years ago.
But now "change the world" is only true for SpaceX.
Also maybe don't say your employer is a "petulant man child" in Slack or otherwise undermine them and you'll be fine. The idea that an employer should keep people that actively dislike like him or her is insane.
They're a private company now.
What is the value prop for a talented, high productivity employee to work at Twitter? The management hates its employees, seemingly hated the product, and doesn't even understand the business that he bought.
What's the upside for employees? There's a reason people were hanging up exactly at 5pm as Musk was giving his pitch to try to keep employees from bailing. He's offering a shit sandwich and he's not even good at selling it.
However if you believe in Musk's vision (is there one!?) and he's desperate he might throw stocks around and then a pivot unexpectedly might work out and a IPO might be lucrative ... but I wouldn't bet on it. All I said: stock exists and can be distributed.
There are lots of reason to own stock besides speculative growth. Taking part of profit as dividend is the most obvious reason.
It's not insane. Only keeping people that kiss your ass is how you get echo chambers and lose touch with reality.
I don't buy into the notion that the chief engineer of SpaceX, which puts rockets in space, and CEO of Tesla, which efficiently produces electric cars, doesn't know how to stay in touch with reality. The evidence is in direct conflict.
That's the example I'm thinking of, and I would guess that even if that dev fully expected to be terminated for making that correction they viewed it as a price worth paying to spare their professional reputation.
Think of it like this: I cannot name probably more than a handful of Google abandoned projects. But whenever Google announces a new project I'm happy to meme about how it will be inevitably abandoned. It's just something I "know" despite not hunting down some weird statistic of exactly what percentage of Google products to market survive after X years.
Reputation isn't a science. It isn't even that well correlated with truth.
Also don't factually and politely correct your CEO in a reply on Twitter when he lies.
Twitter is a private company now. Not sure if you missed the news that this guy named Elon Musk bought the whole company.
> Also maybe don't say your employer is a "petulant man child" in Slack or otherwise undermine them and you'll be fine. The idea that an employer should keep people that actively dislike like him or her is insane.
I think the issue most people are taking with this is that the same standards aren't being applied. Elon is publicly deriding his employees, and then firing them when they respond in kind.
One should let go of idols past their teenage years.
Sounds like a blast.
Are they still giving equity in the chance that it goes public again someday?
Other than a good salary, where’s the financial upside?
I think "committed" will still be 8 hours/day, like I said he sussed out people who are "triggered" by words or don't love what they do.
Most people don't like these sorts of ultimatums, especially those with the most options and flexibility.
Do you work at Twitter? Do you have any reason to really believe this?
If significantly more than half of your coworkers left (fired, laid off, quit), it's very reasonable to assume that you now have twice the work to do. Moreover, we've seen in just the last two weeks people sleeping on the floor of the Twitter office(s), working more than 8hr/day, to urgently ship features that Elon personally nixed hours after launching. The language that Elon used repeatedly over the last week is "hardcore", implying that Old Twitter's way of working is "not hardcore"; if you were working 8hr/day before, what does "hardcore" mean beyond that?
> people who are "triggered" by words or don't love what they do
I love what I do, but I'm not about to start working harder without being compensated for that work. If you sign an agreement to work somewhere for a certain amount and the other party demands you work more without more compensation, no amount of "loving what you do" makes that equitable or fair. Loving what you do doesn't mean sacrificing the worth of your craft because someone said to.
Sussing out people who are "triggered" isn't a business move, it's a loyalty test. Loyalty is uncorrelated with skill or motivation. "Loving what you do" is uncorrelated with loyalty. There's a lot of companies out there doing amazing work that are hiring. Twitter isn't somehow special. If you love what you do and have been given an ultimatum by your new boss who has gotten rid of half of your coworkers and wants you to do more work, how is the logical move to _stay_ at the company?
What kind of a shitty place has this become? Supposed to be "Hacker News". Not a whole lot of hackers here.
I can't see this going well on HN if he said the same thing, verbatim, but posted it as an anonymous comment.
I've been searching for last few years, I read HN every day and haven't found anyone pro-hard work and celebrating perseverence.