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Yes this is it. People don't realize how many police officers are murdered each year (more than 1 per week). It's just a precaution.

I mean, don't get me wrong I think going after a news site is bull shit and I think we should all rally around this guy, but it was not these officers' decision to arrest them and I don't think it was excessive, it was safe (for everyone).

In other countries we wouldn't hear anything about excessive force (because the jaw of the one being arrested would have been broken).

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In 2021 more than 140 firefighters died, coming out to more than 3 a week. First responder jobs are dangerous which is why there's training to reduce the danger. Having an officer grab them a pair of pants and a shirt wouldn't imperil scene safety and the fact that the raid team couldn't bother says plenty.

have you ever been a police officer? i haven't, but ive been in enough situations where guns were pulled that i know when someone doesnt know what theyre talking about

Funny, I’m not a police officer either, and I’ve somehow managed to go my entire life without being in ANY situation where a gun was pulled. Maybe you should re-evaluate your personal risk level and reconsider choices you’ve made in your life instead of defending shitty authoritarian practices of a government that wouldn’t give a shit about you.

Hard agree. If you are having guns pulled on your regularly, that's definitely not just "bad neighborhood" issues. You either have extremely bad luck or need to reevaluate your life choices.

Anyways, to get back on topic: having an old woman stand in front of her house in underwear while the neighbors watch is completely unnecessary but totally unsurprising. Moves like this contribute to the ongoing breakdown in policing legitimacy, and we shouldn't settle for a world where we have to choose the least bad unaccountable organized gang.

Just to put a finer point on it: this kind of humiliation would never happen during a home invasion, and for most people the humiliation is a larger harm than losing some computer equipment.

Everyone dies, not everyone lives. Freedom isn't free.

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> have you ever been a police officer?

I like how you imply this would be disqualifying, only to follow it up with "i haven't".

If you amputate the wrong leg, I don't need to be a doctor to tell you "that's not great".

More delivery drivers are murdered every year than police officers, but you don’t see people rolling around with “thin bread line” bumper stickers.

dataset needed

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