TikTok ban might have been right after all
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The other day it came to me that the huge number of American girls doing porn is actually a sign of how a country has effectively reduced its own women to nothing more then prostitutes. There is a huge irony there, since the populace itself actually still thinks they live in the greatest country in the world. Thankfully, most of them don’t have a passport to go and check the rest of the world.
If the problem was privacy, there would be reform legislation coupled with the move
If the problem is "China shows its youths this, but shows us that", I mean, yeah, China has regulation around how its youths interact with social media; meanwhile, over in America, we're just gonna keep on with the running social experiment of what happens with unmitigated social media framing the way young people interact w/ reality, and I mean actually building first-hand experience and reflecting on that, not second-hand rendering of such.
Anecdotally, my experience with their algo is that you are in complete control. It adapts faster than any other platform to my training it, whereas IG continues to insist on showing me things in my explore section I've routinely told it not to. Whether or not the Chinese government is tipping the scale of content distribution, I mean, do they really need to do anything, or was America already divisive? Blocking TikTok at any rate probably won't stop that trajectory, our own political sphere, as Jesse Ventura once said, is a sports game in the first place.
Its one thing to block the app on government devices just in case, the wholesale ban doesn't add up to me though.
Still, TikTok creeps me out. It's highly addictive. It has those ties to the communist party. China enforces a nerfed version of the app in their own country.
> He believes that the data China can get from TikTok isn’t particularly different or more useful than what it’s accused of obtaining through hacks or can just purchase from data brokers. Pro-Chinese propaganda is no concern to him, he said, adding, “Your average 15-year-old is not going to tune into a video extolling Xi Jinping.”
> Where he does see some risk is that China could use TikTok to censor, manipulate, or distribute disinformation.
To me, the moderation risk is too high. With any social media company, they have a lot of power to put their thumb on the scales in regards to what type of content gets disseminated. This is a big enough problem at US companies which are not (explicitly) political. This seems like a much worse version of that.
The data privacy concerns were of no concern to the Democrats back then, so what exactly did the Democrats get wrong?
There is more nuance here though. If you start banning companies because you're a xenophobe, that sends a very different message than if you ban then because they're a puppet company for the Chinese govmn't
The data privacy concerns were of no interest to the Democrats back then. Or, if it was a concern, it certainly wasn't as important as condemning Trump and anyone that supported banning TikTok as Sinophobes. In other words, data privacy was a lesser concern than xenophobia.
To say Trump got it right means the Democrats got something wrong, but they don't want to mention what that something is.
What exactly did the Democrats get wrong - the Sinophobia or the privacy problem?
I suspect my question will remain unanswered because the honest answer reflects poorly on the party that claims to be for intellectuals.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200708024138/https://www.cnbc....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump–TikTok_controvers...
But it seems a minority opinion. The majority opinion seems to see it as on par with other social media: certainly a problem, but not worse than others just because it's Chinese.
Perhaps because it's an intelligence issue, they can't make their case without classified information. Or perhaps viewing things through the intelligence lens makes everything associated with China look dangerous, even if it's not really any more dangerous than the non-Chinese equivalents.
Little did most of them know that TikTok was already under a national security investigation years before Trump suggested the 'ban' on the same grounds [1][2]. I mentioned this in [3] and immediately got [flagged][dead] [3] at the height of 2020.
This is unsurprising. Always in election year; sense, evidence, research and the truth gets thrown out of the window and all is revealed and exposed afterwards and after the news.
As soon as that happens, it is already too late.
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24611558
[1] https://www.cotton.senate.gov/news/press-releases/cotton-sch...
[2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tiktok-cfius-exclusive-id...
It's both ridiculous and pathetic that China can block all foreign media within it's own borders yet still run one of the most privacy invasive apps currently available outside its borders.