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The Quarterly Revenue Trend[1] shows that the "Gaming" category is once again responsible for most of the revenue loss: $1,574M this quarter vs $2,042 in Q2. Of course, the "Gaming" category is known to includes crypto mining.

[1] Nvidia Quarterly Revenue Trend: https://s22.q4cdn.com/364334381/files/doc_financials/2023/Re...

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Not sure how much crypto mining going away affects it though, demand is still there, you just can't buy their cards right now. I've been trying to buy a few rtx 4090s since launch day and it's nowhere to be found.

On the off chance you get to put it in your cart, it either disappears by the time you check out or the order gets voided afterwards. It rarely stays in stock longer than a few mins.

Youtuber Moore's Law is Dead claims this is on purpose to allow AIBs to clear out their existing oversupply of 30x0-series cards.

I usually don't do this but... AIBs?

Google is only giving me Allied Irish Banks. Somehow I feel that's not what you're talking about.

The trick in this case was to search Nvidia AIBs.

> Nvidia Add-in Board (AIB) partners ... The list includes Inno3D, MSI, ASUS, Palit, Colorful, PNY

You'll get reddit if you search aib nVidia

https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4pma4q/terminology_all...

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There seems to be some confusion regarding the acronym AIB, and many are using AIB to refer to 'non reference' graphics card designs.

AIB is an acronym for Add In Board as used within the video card industry. The 'graphics' part is implied by the industry context.

All Graphics cards are AIB.

http://jonpeddie.com/press-releases/details/add-in-board-mar...

An AIB supplier or an AIB partner is a company that buys the AMD (or Nvidia) Graphics Processor Unit to put on a board and then bring a complete and usable Graphics Card or AIB to market.

See AMD's article on Partners (including AIB, OE, System Builder) here: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDPartnersAI...

The term AIB has absolutely nothing to do with what ports are available, the design of the pcb, or the cooler design.

AIB literally just means "it's a graphics card".

The distinction I believe is made to except the cards where Nvidia does design and manufacturing — e.g. Founders Edition.

Yes, apologies! I'm so deep in the AMD/Intel/Nvidia rumor mill I forget how normal humans talk, sometimes.

Tech news people tend to use "AIBs" as shorthand for "second-party (add-in) board partners" -- that is, companies that sell graphics cards using AMD or Nvidia GPUs but with their own board and cooler designs. So in the case of Nvidia this would be EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI, Zotac, ASUS, etc. But crucially NOT including Nvidia themselves, even though Nvidia sell their own reference design they call the "Founder's Edition".

nVidia themselves have a ton of inventory. $4.5B of it at the end of quarter, very close to +100% YoY.

Why you need a few of them? GPU mining is completely dead.

Try different countries - there will be delivery cost, but it will not be so comparable to the price.

For machine learning, self funding my startup and can't afford the expensive server grade gpus. Other countries are usually above msrp + shipping + import tax, would be cheaper to buy from a scalper.

Depending on the country you could try to find a hardware swap subreddit. Mining RTX 3090 (not the one that you mentioned but still) often go for <1000 CAD so you could get 2.5 RTX 3090 for each RTX 4090 you wanted.

There are plenty of 3090s on craigslist as well, fairly common to find below 800$, but 4090s are more power efficient and it's easier to manage a single rig with 7 gpus than trying to network 2 rigs with 14 gpus total. It's also faster for inference without any model change.

Not really any more - crypto crash, plus ETH moving to PoS means no real use mining anything, and sane GPU prices for gamers.

Checking... Checking... Nope, the prices are still insane.

Thankfully Nvidia has picked up crypto’s slack with a pretty not-sane MSRP for the 4090 :)

I've been waiting for the promised glut of cheap RTXes but somehow it hasn't materialized. Maybe the miners can't easily liquidate?

RTX 3080 Ti is €650 on ebay buy it now on a $1200 MSRP, how much of a discount are you expecting?

I recall the litecoin crash dropping the R9 390 to $80 back in the day (5ish years ago). Wouldn't mind an $80 5700xt these days.

Searching on eBay for "RTX 3080" and limiting it to sold listings, I see a lot having sold in the last few days for ~$500. Based on how GPU MSRPs have been going, seems like a decent price to me. I was never sure what to expect post-GPU-crypto, were you expecting cheaper?

You can get deals. I got 2 3090s for $560 each about 3 weeks ago. (They are working fine so far)

I don't know if you consider it cheap, but Costco has plenty of computers available with 3060s and i7-12700s.

Wasn't Nvidia sued for this? I'm surprised they still aren't breakig out crypto mining as its own category.

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