Thread: Twitter Engineers Fired for Correcting Musk
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And publicly disagreeing with the owner of the company, whilst working for the company shows this guy is not particularly bright. So probably no great loss.
Either way, it sounds like both parties are better off if he leaves so all good.
And who knows what is or isn't factually wrong here...certainly not you (or me).
”At-will employment” (every state except Montana) not ”right-to-work” (which California emphatically is not.) The latter is a restriction on unions.
> but can you lie about the reason?
Lying publicly about the reason might be defamation, but this wasn’t public, and lying doesn’t itself establish that the reason was illegal, which is necessary for wrongful termination in an at-will state.
Can't have employees working against the company public image.
The way these employees were dismissed is pretty humane. They will get severance pay, and end up in a better place than if they just up and left.
I can disagree with decisions, without creating internal strife within the company I work for. I would hope you can, too.
There's way too much hearsay being flung about in social media about Twitter's new ownership.
Here's the original tweet: https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1591853644944932865
The reply: https://nitter.net/EricFrohnhoefer/status/159190228540341862...
And a screenshot of another exchange: https://nitter.net/cabel/status/1592228117409845249#m
Elon thinks he's an engineer, but he is just rich brat trying to look like an engineer, and throwing the real engineers under the bus in the process.
Keep your head down, I guess.
He tweeted at Fraunhoefer:
> Twitter is super slow on Android. What have you done to fix that?
Which sounds a lot like an attack to me, coming from someone in Elon's position. If you need further explanation, he addressed it at him with the word 'you'.
Also, firing the guy after this exchange is kind of a personal attack.
Elon shits on the product in public, team member defends their work, Elon calls the team member out on it, who by the way then replies perfectly reasonably: https://twitter.com/EricFrohnhoefer/status/15919683432293662...
and then gets fired.
One item that's unclear to me is if the employee had put that they were open to other opportunities on their profile at the time of firing. To me that changes the calculus of why he may have been fired.
Professionals should not be expected to extend any respect to those who treat them like dirt.
Short term, the professional attitude to have is to either continue giving your best while observing the situation, or leave.
It is never alright to, instead, work to sabotage harmony within the company, and it surprises me when people don't seem to understand something so basic.
He has every right, within the confines of the law, to choose how the company is run.
However, I do presume that most employees do not take issue with Musk's leadership, much unlike the drama we see in social media; Its nature does in fact tend to make everything into drama, even where there's none to be found.
Really? I can't imagine working in a shop where a new boss comes in, makes such a public ruckus about everything, practically destroys everything, fires the vast majority of my colleagues, and then acts like a jerk about the whole thing...
What kind of workplaces have you experienced that lead you to believe such conduct is something that "most employees" would not take issue with?
And because of that he shouldn’t be criticized?
> How can I make this more clear?
Let me see if I hear you correctly, and then you can try to clarify. You're saying that Elon paid billions of dollars to buy Twitter so he wouldn't be criticized. Do I have that right? I think it might clarify things if you told me how you see that as an effective strategy. He may be able to prevent people from criticizing him on Twitter, but I think off of Twitter, people are going to continue to criticize him, so it seems pretty ineffective.
Also, can you tell me where you are getting the impression this was his goal?
Elon Musk doesn't own Twitter. Twitter owns him.
That's a rather fundamental difference.
> He has every right, within the confines of the law, to choose how the company is run.
And the employees have every right, within the law, to question how the company is run, and the factual premises of decisions. And, sure, when he's broken internal comms he is free to shoot the messenger when disputes occur in public as a result, but that doesn't fix issues and it just makes it less likely the truth will reach him through the culture of fear he has created.
He can and has the right to stick his fingers in his ears and crash Twitter into the ground, sure.
Can you tell me more about how you approach technical disagreements?
It's an interesting strategy so far, treating people like dirt and spooking the advertisers with his chaotic decisions, the net effect adds up to damaging Twitter's biggest source of cash — advertisment deals.
In another version of our timeline, Musk took the reigns and kept things running relatively smoothly while digging deep to actually understand the system and form a coherent strategy before enacting wide-scale platform changes. He's missed an enormous opportunity lead through an inspiring vision.
In our timeline, we have an immature fool making a very public mess. It's undeniably entertaining and stranger than fiction. But I feel terrible for the employees, real living breathing human beings, suffering at The Hand of His Royal Majesty.
I also do not have a Twitter account, nor held TWTR shares at any point in time.
dis·cord
/ˈdiskôrd/
noun
1. disagreement between people.
Note: I'm not talking about free speech in the context of the first amendment, as that does not apply to private entities, obviously. I'm talking in the more broad sense, as in one should not be punished for speech, which is what I interpret Elon's take on it as.
He doesn't care about free speech or Twitter, this is just a way for him to insert himself into the zeitgeist yet again, and throw around whatever engineering mastery he thinks he has.
https://www.insider.com/jaboukie-giabuchi-twitter-suspended-...