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He fired another one:

https://twitter.com/sachee/status/1592308273071681536?s=46&t...

If he fires all the engineers with a bad attitude it’ll just be the product managers left.

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I guess this is what she got in trouble for? Pretty epic way to go, IMHO:

> you did not just layoff almost all of infra and then make some sassy remark about how we do batching

>like did you bother to even learn how graphql works

>you don’t get to shit on our infra if you don’t know what the fuck it does while you’re also scrambling to rehire folks you laid off

Her background: https://sashatsolomon.com/

>I'm a Staff Software engineer and co-Tech Lead of the Core API Platform Team at Twitter helping build the next generation API with GraphQL and Scala. I currently serve on the GraphQL Governing Board as a representative of Twitter, as well as on the Technical Steering Committee for GraphQL.

Amazing stuff. I thought I knew how to risk my career just for the sake of comedy, this lass shows that she's varsity and I'm not even cleaning the jv bench

I respect it. If you're a Twitter employee fed up with this stuff and typing up a boring resignation email, why not instead say screw it and get publicly fired by the big man himself after hurting his ego on Twitter..

Totally. She knows she can go anywhere as well. Based on a quick glance at her cv she has the experience to back it

>If he fires all the engineers with a bad attitude

Where I work it's in the contract that you don't talk shit about the company on social media. I think that's common sense too. I'm sure Elon is an irritating piece of shit, especially as a superior, but shit-flinging online like this is just not something I'd want in my company either.

Well, Elon is the one talking shit about the company. She was, on the other hand, praising the infra, and talking shit only about the CEO.

Well, his real title is Future Supreme Eternal Ruler of Mars (CEO)

CEO is part of the company.

So is the fired worker, and of the two I'd venture a guess that she provides more value to the company than Elon.

Pretty sure all the project managers were in the first round of layoffs.

I'm not surprised she was fired with that attitude.

Who thinks they can tell their boss "kiss my ass" and not get fired?

> i said it before and i'll say it again

> kiss my ass elon

(using his platform)

What was it, beacon of absolute free speech or some horseshit like that?

Speaking of horse, remember when he told an employee he'd buy her a horse if she fucked him?

Free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.

(wasn't he supposed to be for free speech?)

(Did he stop her from saying it?)

He literally cancelled her. Got her fired from her own job because of a tweet. It's exactly the intolerance he complains of.

No, actions have consequences but he has not prevented her from saying what she wanted to say.

"No, actions have consequences"

Literally the exact thing Elon Musks complains about except it's when someone on his side of the culture war that becomes a victim.

Hurr durr Elon bad all you want, getting fired for telling your boss to ‘kiss my ass’ is not cancel culture and neither is continuing to host that message.

It's literally exactly what the right, and the rest of the twitter free speechistas, consider cancel culture.

I’m not about to debate a troll on the straw man of what ‘the right’ meanies consider cancel culture.

Well you tried to for a few posts there

I wonder if there’s a severance package for that. Employment suicide by cop.

Dangerous gamble for just a couple months of severance.

Would make me hesitant to hire that person knowing they have such bad judgement as to publicly badmouth the CEO of their company on Twitter. Even hiring managers who personally hate Elon have to understand that this developer could easily turn the same energy on their own company at some point in the future and make them look terrible.

Definitely a career limiting move, if not potentially career ending.

Unless you're in a financial FU position, and this is your grand FU moment on your way out the door, it seems like a bad move.

Don't overthink it. Elon's a huge ass.

I think this attitude about "bad judgement" needs to evolve. We need to consider whether a worker's profane tirade is a reflection of their judgement or a reflection of working under an extremely abusive boss.

Career ending. Go scope her experience and actual role and you'll see why she spoke so freely. She can waltz into any other company she wants. They're already coming for her in the thread lmao

Lol.. these career ending move people are the same type that would say it is risky for someone who just graduated from MIT to leave their McDonald's job. I've sued multiple previous employers and never had it come up during interviews at Fortune 50 companies. I even went to work at one company that I had previously sued and won against in a personal dispute. If you're good at your job these companies don't care, they won't put that much effort into checking, and you can always scrub your social media later on.

I’ll hire her. My skin is pretty thick, and I need competent engineers more than my ego stoked.

I would hire anyone that called any C level person a dumbass for making bad decisions affecting the bottom-line of the company.

It won't hurt her hiring prospects one bit. In the long run, it might even help.

> Definitely a career limiting move, if not potentially career ending.

She is already receiving job offers, so how could you possibly come to that ridiculous conclusion?

Of course she’s receiving generous offers from the ‘hurr durr Elon bad’ crowd. The career limitation is that most people just aren’t in that crowd. That doesn’t necessarily mean they’re licking Elons boots, it could also mean they don’t care at all or that they are somewhere in the middle.

I’m not in a hiring position but if I were I’d avoid her because I don’t want to import drama into my environment.

If you are competent, at the end of the day you can get away with almost anything. In the worst case, she can go start her own company as a GraphQL consultant :)

If you were my hiring director and turned down an exceptional candidate because they stood up for their team, you’d be the one getting fired.

Telling your boss to ‘kiss my ass’ is not standing up for your team, it’s perfectly normal grounds to get fired. But be sure to hire her if you think that behavior is normal, it’s a free world.

Seems from my outsider perspective that this kind of hyper-aggressive and combative tone is like a currency on Twitter… There seem to be those for whom the Twitter bubble is _everything_ (which would include Elon), and then you have the other 99.9% of humanity who look on with confusion. And the 0.1% of the super engaged don't seem to be able to fathom that the Twitter bubble still exists _within_ reality, where actions can have consequences

The first line of that tweet reads

> lol just got fired for shitposting

I think it's okay to say "kiss my ass" after being fired. Especially if you think doing so sends the right signal.

Her "kiss my ass elon" pinned post was from July 8.

She's been publicly criticising Elon for a few days now, and not in a constructive manner like the Android dev. I can understand why she'd be let go.

Because she want like the pony flight attendant?

Eh, normally I'd agree, but let's not pretend this is a normal situation. If you parachute into a company as CEO and start publicly insulting all of the professional work that the employees (half of whom he just fired) have done, you can't expect them not to defend themselves and their (former) colleagues.

This seems to be the fireable shitpost:

https://twitter.com/sachee/status/1591857120768843776

Her pinned Tweet is "kiss my ass elon" from July 8.

True, I didn't see that. Still, he wasn't her boss at the time, that was the day he filed the first termination letter of his attempt to buy twitter, so it looked like he never would be. (I'm assuming she pinned it after he fired her, but I'm not sure.)

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1418091/000110465922...

If you wanna be paid to be a doormat, there is demand for that clearly.

This is like his open door policy - go through it, for you will leave your job behind it.

Eh, there's a difference between criticizing your boss publicly vs privately.

> Eh, there’s a difference between criticizing your boss publicly vs privately.

Well, judging from the recent stories about Twitter’s internal environment and the public examples of criticism at Twitter, privately in an organization with no viable upstream internal communication and a culture of fear and retaliation is both impossible and likely to get you fired (immediately or on a list of targets by management) without your message getting to the top, whereas publicly your message is at least more likely to get to the top before you get fired, plus you are likely to have job offers in the thread, so, its clearly the preferred strategy.

There's also a difference between criticizing your employees' work publicly vs privately. (And let's be honest - most likely the employee is 100% correct here, and he's lying about their performance as expressed by the codebase.)

Only one of them is wildly inappropriate.

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