Are we supposed to track down the people responsible for the Tomahawk cruise missile program as well? I mean, this piece does not make any sense to me. There is a difference between the people that make weapons and those that use them.
I mean… yes?!
Developers of the weapons may say they do not want to hit civilian targets. These people know full well what they are doing. They are pure inexcusable evil.
You have to be at least some level of patriotic to work on weapons systems, so it’s more likely they’ll call it regrettable that it’s sometimes necessary to use against civilians and call it a day.
The reason I say I don’t blame them in particular is because I can see the appeal of working on things that blow shit up. Even better if you believe they’re your enemies (would I have issues making weapons that drive the Russians out of Ukraine?).
It’s because I have faith in my government. And as ridiculous and caused by propaganda as it may be, that is likely the same for the Russians.
From my perspective they’re evil, but I doubt they see themselves that way.
But it's basic cause and effect, some people built a missile, some people ordered its use, some people launched it at the target. All of them bear some portion of the responsibility for the end result, any other conclusion is not entirely honest.
There are international laws regulating war, and the fact is that Russia toke great pleasure into violating each single one of them. Systematically. Deliberately. All while telling lies and jokes to inflict the greatest pain possible to the population. It is an spectacle absolutely hideous.
And now they wonder why aren't attracting any international sympathy lately
Most of the missile strikes have no military value, as Russia seems to withdraw from parts of Ukraine.
Perhaps showing the group responsible would make them think about what they are doing besides inputting coordinates.
Since you're a german: I was reading hard to comeby chronicles and memoirs from before WW2 and there was this fact: russians and germans were close friends, people from military missions were calling each other brothers. This was frowned upon by the government... So, I'm saying, humans are generally peaceful and friendly, but are being manipulated. :(
Typical civilian deaths in Afghanistan would be e.g. families living with high ranking enemy combatants, totally incomparable with Russian forces bombing shopping malls in Ukraine.
At least the US cares enough to have a man in the loop when killing with their drones. Chair force killers actually have to watch and pull the trigger, not like the Russian missile programmers remotely destroying city block sized targets.
Except that that that's not true. [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8]
Let's be clear, what's happening in Ukraine is abhorrent, but let's also not pretend that the west cares a lot less and even actively participates in atrocities when the victims are not as white.
0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_in_the_war...
1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstri...
2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haska_Meyna_wedding_party_airs...
3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wech_Baghtu_wedding_party_airs...
4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruzgan_helicopter_attack
5: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_raid_on_Narang
6: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azizabad_airstrike
7: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granai_airstrike
8: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstri...
https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/how-tos/2021/08/26/the-...
The Russians target shopping centres with weapons designed to take out American aircraft carriers.
They aren’t really the same.
Also, nobody ever argued that they are exactly the same, but both should be dragged in front of the Hague nevertheless. It matters little to the dead, injured, and loved ones, wether it happened to terrorise (as Russia does in Ukraine, or the US did in latin America and Iran) or because of apathy towards dehumanised people (as with the USA, UK, Germany, e.t.c. in Iraq and Afghanistan).
Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons is still doing the right thing, anything that reduces collateral damage is good.
This is propaganda, they often kill indiscriminately, and often kill based on extremely flimsy intel. They later try to explain it with 'there was an enemy combatant there', but provide no evidence of that. It's the same crap the Israelis do.
The US has bombed multiple wedding parties, where there were no enemy combatants anywhere nearby. They killed 30 civillians in one instance, in an area which had been abandoned by enemy forces for months!
If a missile is programmed to fall in a maternity full of pregnant women, they are necessary accomplices of a massive assassination. They could be lied about it the first couple of times. After nine full months of terrorism, "we didn't knew the consequences of our actions" is not reasonable