Comment by juujian | Hacker News Reader

Comment by juujian | Hacker News Reader

I'm not saying that I do not understand the question, but let me give you another perspective on this. How have you dealt with this so far? The world has not changed. (Maybe our awareness of it has.) Immorality and deflection is and old problem in philosophy. The oldest Caesar's shameless propaganda in de Bello Gallico.

I think there are different ways to tackle this. The first one is to accept the inability of people to take responsibility as part of the worlds we live in. Accept the issue as human nature, just like we accept the rain, because nonacceptance really does not change the fact that it periodically occurs. Maybe in a Buddhist kind of way--although disclaimer I do not know a lot about Buddhism. And note that we still protect ourselves against the weather and try to reach safe land. We cannot control certain phenomena, but we can control how we feel about them and how they affect us.

Or you can set out to build a better world. There is no indication that irresponsibility and grift is becoming less prevalent in the world. But it is still a meaningful goal to pursue a world where actions have consequences. And speaking out at the right time can be quite rewarding. Though you will likely have to deal with the fact that on aggregate we still will not responsibility for what we do, other than local instances. And speaking out and holding people responsible will probably not lead to rewards in your career, business, etc.--rather the opposite. We all have to decide what our goals are and what world we want to work toward.

I hear you. There’s a war in Ukraine.

Did our understanding help?

Futile, is why I write.

The writers pen is always powerlessness.

Here, take it.

That resonates with me.

I’ll pick up the pen and give it a go.

I argue that lack of understanding and communication is why there is even a war. The war only benefits a small amount of people, the various authorities of NATO and Russian authorities depending who wins. NATO authorities stand to gain by threatening Russia leading up the war, which can be used as leverage in other negotiations to exploit Russia, and Russian authorities stand to gain for whatever spoils it gets, and reducing the threat of NATO presence in Ukraine. But what about all us individual people, and solders duped into fighting this war?

The war doesn’t help the common people in the rest of the world, people in Ukraine, or the common people in Russia, with the sanctions hurting the economics and people’s livelihood. The war doesn’t benefit the solders dying.

But because the communication is influenced/controlled by the various authorities, a mass lack of understanding of how we as individual people can work together exists. We think we have to kill each other, but do we? There is propaganda, and lies being spread to help make it happen, which is the opposite of understanding. We have thousands of people spending their time killing each other. Instead of helping out, understanding each other, finding the balance of meeting each others needs. We have people listening to the various authorities that tell us to go threaten and kill each other. If we don’t listen, we may be threatened by people who do, people that don’t understand that this is a waste of time that could be spent doing something beneficial.

In the end, way more people will be left suffering than those who benefited, including the ones on the ground actually pulling the trigger, making it happen. If we could come to this understanding together, as individuals, without the corruption of authorities trying to manipulate us into killing each other, would we still be fighting? I don’t think so. Even the authorities, will they achieve peace and happiness, since now they will have to constantly watch their back, fear losing their power, double down on their lies to stay in power, because they now created more enemies, suffering, and hate?

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