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I’ve got a horrid feeling you’re waiting for this precise question, but any source on degrowth being the aim of a “lot” of climate activists to the extent that it’s vaguely mainstream (as opposed to just being a minor current, which I’m aware exists)

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Environmentalist groups often oppose construction of solar and wind farms [0]. The Sunrise Movement has explicitly advocated for degrowth policies (e.g. [1], with some in the movement claiming it does not go far enough [2]).

[0] https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/americas-top-environmental...

[1] https://twitter.com/sunrisemvmt/status/1328770319843287041?l...

[2] https://medium.com/@xxcapsxx1964/to-the-sunrise-movement-fc6...

[0] is classic NIMBYism not degrowth as an aim (I hope you can acknowledge those are different things). [1] is a tweet just saying that capitalism won’t solve the climate crisis, which I hope you can also distinguish from advocating degrowth as an objective (capitalism and economic growth are not synonymous). And [2] is an individual volunteer posting something to the public internet under their own initiative, which (absolutely no disrespect to them) does not make the mainstream of the climate movement.

At least degrowth is mentioned (a lot) in the latest IPCC report: https://timotheeparrique.com/degrowth-in-the-ipcc-ar6-wgiii/

It doesn’t help that most visible activists don’t have clear and measurable goals

I don’t know about that: the major activist groups in the uk which get news attention are just stop oil, who want the government to stop issuing new oil and gas licenses, and insulate Britain, who want the government to install insulation in all state-owned housing.

Those are both concrete, measurable goals

How dare you! Listen to the scientists! No not those scientists!

All those earth lovers are so lame. I’ll burn as much oil as I want

I mean I feel like the most visible “activists” are in egypt right now clearly calling for the measurable goal of keeping warming under 1.5 degrees?

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