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> “over the next few days, the absolute top priority is finding and suspending any verified bots/trolls/spam.”

Is this goodbye to @ElonJet?

Also, "troll" seems rather nebulous. Is it the end for anyone seen as a troublemaker?

I don't think the intention is to suspend ElonJet since Musk has already explicitly said he made the choice to not suspend it despite the alleged "personal safety risk". Trolls in this case probably refers to accounts that paid for new Twitter Blue and are now impersonating well-known figures/entities.

The wording seems consistent with everything going on at Twitter so far, that he's just kinda winging it while everyone else is frozen in confusion over the abrupt changes. A $44B acquisition is quickly reverting into the volatility of a 2006 startup.

Surprise! That's when he last ran a software company.

There's a lot of software involved in both Tesla and SpaceX. Much more advanced software then a web app.

Every company has software. That doesn’t mean a car company operates like a social network

Much more advanced, indeed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/99sbwa/form...

He’s running two of the world’s most successful software companies right now.

Are you counting Twitter as one of the most successful software companies?

No, Tesla and SpaceX. Plus Neuralink, but Musk isn’t involved in the operations there.

Neither of those are software companies.

You think those rockets fly remote controlled?

Using your logic McDonalds is a software company.

How so? Because they buy software?

>"Trolls in this case probably refers to accounts that paid for new Twitter Blue and are now impersonating well-known figures/entities."

Do you mean parody accounts?

Sort of, but only the kind that didn't obey Elon's hastily drafted "rule" that require clear labeling of parody accounts.

Some (hilarious) examples of what I mean can be seen here: https://twitter.com/theserfstv/status/1590593334216916992

These are amusing to look at, but for Twitter to be taken seriously long term this can't keep happening. Musk's $8 Twitter Blue change is what unleashed this chaos in the first place.

That's what parody is.

No. And Musk already said so. What’s the intention of the FUD?

> And Musk already said so.

You think this matters? Did you not see the whole "comedy is legal again" followed by banning/suspending people for parodies? How quickly he went back on "free speech"?

How is identity theft or impersonation “comedy“? Are all the crypto spammers “comedy” for you? Why not stay real and stop all the hate?

Really tearing off the mask there. Another point into the "free speech until I don't like it" column.

Not to mention not understanding what parody and satire are, of course. To this day there are people who still think Sarah Palin actually said "I can see Russia from my house!" but that doesn't make it not satire.

It's called parody, and you can't actually seriously be asking, can you? You probably thought that The Onion amici brief on parody was good! Yet here you are, insisting that if parody doesn't reveal itself, it's identity theft and impersonation. Never heard of a comedian that "does impressions"? Doing an impression isn't illegal. Mimicking someone except as to say things they'd obviously not say, is exactly what parody is and it's not illegal and it's certainly not problem speech in anyway (as opposed to spam, which makes sites illegible/unusable).

Is creating a false “Musk” account to spam people with some shitcoin “parody”? Is creating a fake Musk account to post hatefull shit under his name “parody”?

What is up with the New Left and this total absence of reason and ethics?

Actual parody is completely okay and NOT banned (unlike it was on Old Twitter).

>Is creating a false “Musk” account to spam people with some shitcoin “parody”? Is creating a fake Musk account to post hatefull shit under his name “parody”?

No, and yes. I'm not sure what's difficult to navigate about that? the first might even be commercial speech.

>"What is up with the New Left and this total absence of reason and ethics?"

I don't know? You tell me? Who is the new left? What do they have to do with this conversation at all?

>Actual parody is completely okay and NOT banned (unlike it was on Old Twitter).

There is no category of parody that is "actual parody". There is just parody, and not parody. The examples I provided were all parody that is now again banned... In your example, posting hateful shit as musk is parodic and is banned.

Most of the "hateful shit" is just making fun of him, and mockery is a super common use of parody, this isn't some weird edge case.

> Is this goodbye to @ElonJet?

No. [0]

[0] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

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