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It will have a big effect on salaries, however, it'd be a momentous opportunity for upcoming startups to pick up some bargain basement talent.

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"Can someone think of the shareholder value?"

Keep in mind it's always about people, not about soulless entities.

Let me shed a tear for these massively overpaid engineers who will now have to make only measly 2-3x of the average wage

They're still workers, don't be silly.

primates get a rush when they see peers beaten down

More like a crab bucket

They'll have lots of options, and importantly, if they do cycle back into startup land, they may just pick a winner.

The next generation of startups that will become giants are being started now. Right now is a great time to start something new.

And yet the company still makes 2-3x their salary in profit

Hmm, so what?

cost of living in those areas means these guys live at best above middle class unless you want engineers to essentially never have children and live in an apartment all their life, then even 200-300k in these areas isn't much.

> engineers to essentially never have children and live in an apartment all their life

Welcome to most of Europe.

As an engineer living in Europe and inside an apartment I can confirm.

Also wanted to add that when we want to feel less trapped we can very easily escape to many other nice places that surround us in the near vicinity, I usually go for bookstores and coffee-shops (from where I’m writing this comment), other people also choose parks, bike-rides, stuff like that. We manage.

I'm not going to address the other aspects in your comment but:

1. Apartments can be perfectly fine for a happy life, everywhere across the world.

2. Conception and child upbringing do not mandate having a house.

They could simply move. It's what normal people had to do because these overpaid engineers outpriced them.

This is not true in any city in the US by any statistically valid definition of “middle class”.

Without those soulless entities who over hired by a large numbers those people may not have their job in the first place. So sympathize, but with perspective.

Even if not true (and it very well could be be true), most hiring managers will assume that the people let go were the low performers in their roles.

AFAICT from people I know it's a mix

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