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In some (vague, old) theories, students in a traditional school are learning F2F social skills, developing friendships & relationships with a large-ish group of their ~peers, and other soft stuff.

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There'sa difference in the socialization part: the 'sitting in class bored to tears by a long slow lecture that everybody has to watch in silence' removed. And the actual interaction increased.

imo this limited definition of peer groups is in fact one of the biggest issues with our education model. short of being drafted there is virtually no other social or work setting where your entire social stratum will be comprised solely of people born within the same 12 months and the same zipcode. if anything this gives a highly distorted view of society and encourages a whole range of maladaptive behaviors & thinking patterns. it should be unsurprising that the most intense forms of bullying occur in these settings.

I always thought that Scouts was the one bright spot in youth upbringing, where kids from 10-18 had to socialize, listen to one another and plan mutual outings.

The "born within the same 12 months" part was, historically, far less a part of America's school system. My grandmother taught grades 1-8 in a one-room small-town schoolhouse. My mother taught both in that little town schoolhouse...and also in a large, modern high school in an industrialized city. There was one h*ll of a difference between the two.

Mom did not mince words about which one she thought was far better for the students - in spite of having a vastly lower per-student budget.

Free day care is just really hard to pass up

Idk why this is being downvoted. One only needs to look back at the rippling effects that school closures had in 2020-2021…

Indeed. Bring back the good old days when men were men and worked in the fields all day, and women were women and watched the kids and fed the family.

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