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> This is all 100% a dark pattern to keep users locked into Apple.

Quite a bold statement that it is like that to lock in users. I highly doubt that. This is rather negligence as Apple still has a hard time to catch up with the main product features.

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I imagine it’s selective negligence. I doubt making the off-boarding experience super is high on their priority list, so it becomes as good as a dark pattern.

Have you tried 'offboarding' 200gb of photos and videos from icloud photo library?

Its easy if you have a mac. Set the photo app to store originals on disc and you can just copy the files out of the photo folder.

I don't have a Mac. In fact, an overwhelming majority of people don't use Macs. Apple knows this.

Only ~15% are MacOS users worldwide according to this: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide...

There are several good and not so great ways to do off boarding from icloud.

- Use a mac. - If you have your photos on your ios device you can connect it as a camera to windows or linux and copy the files off. - If you use google photos, onedrive, dropbox, synology or any other file storage app that can auto upload photos you can do it that way - you can install icloud for windows and use that to sync photos. Its in my experience super slow for large amounts of photos but works. - You can request zip downloads from icloud. - You can initiate a server to server transfer from icloud to google photos.

When I had to move a large amount of data from one cloud storage to another (migrating Dropbox and Mega to Google drive) on slow dsl internet, I rented a VPS for a couple hours from Digital Ocean and installed a desktop, which I connected via x2go. If you have the ability to do this, your home internet connection speed is irrelevant.

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