My only issue with that is i would miss the os. The hardware on apple laptops is rubbish, but the os is great and makes then appear fast and slick.
Out of curiosity, what parts of the hardware do you find rubbish?
The hardware seems fantastic to me. The M1/M2 chips, trackpad, keyboard, fingerprint reader, Liquid Retina screens, audio, etc. are all great compared to other laptops I've had. Wifi and Bluetooth are also more reliable on my MBP than any other laptop I've owned. The only thing I can think of is that it's not upgradable like a Framework laptop or the old butterfly keyboards.
edit: plus there’s limited support for other os’.
I can't disagree with the historical build issues, the pricing, or limited OS support, although the latter two doesn't seem to make the hardware rubbish.
if your expectation is to use the macbook pro as a text editor (ide) and video chat then yes its powerful. but if you want games and the ability to install other os’ then its not really that cool, for the money.
apple’s marketing sounds a bit like “it’s got electrolytes”. unified memory is fast but not new and definitely not that fast.
do people actually think that apple’s ram runs at 400 gb/s?
Care to explain what you think "cpu bandwidth" means?
Also, I recommend looking at some real measurements: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performanc...
I'm happy calling the butterfly keys rubbish: they were. But now? What?
In other words, do any of the common repairs. To spend top dollar for a laptop and not be able to do repairs is rubbish: intentional planned obsolescence and vendor lock-in IMO.
Can you answer without moving the goal posts?
The narcissistic tendency to conflate consumer preference with quality (or moral weight) is drearily common on HN these days.
We get it, you have a fetish for replacing RAM (but seem to have forgotten that CPUs can also be replaced, oops your computer can't do that? soldered it to the mainboard? rubbish).
but i really really like the os.
Meanwhile, macOS frustrates me more and more each update. Back in 2015, I would never have considered switching to Linux. At my last job, I spent an entire year on Manjaro and only switched back to macOS to do iOS dev.
I actually like Apple's hardware a good bit - but I absolutely despise the OS. It's a bloated hog of a thing.
I still wouldn't ever buy an Apple product, but the work issued macbooks are generally decent hardware, just avoid the 16 inch intels they put out, those are rubbish.
The software is annoying as all get out though, and they're only becoming more and more tight with control around it.
Kexts going away is painful
documentation is bad
scripting is much harder than it should be
FS is... obnoxious at best, utterly bug ridden at worst
The apps they put out are fine I guess (I really don't use basically any of them) but the base system feels like a tire fire right now.
that def is an unpopular opinion.