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Comment by grecy | Hacker News Reader

So I've seen every news agency on the planet run this story, and they either cite each other in a huge circle, or they cite "people familiar with the matter".

Do we have 100% concrete first-hand documented evidence this actually happened to more than -let's say- 10 people?

Somehow, I highly doubt it.

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It seems to me that unfortunately there's a lot of "tesla man bad" going around, causing dubious stories to be spread before they're verified.

You'll also see lots of people claiming Musk somehow broke employment law by not giving notice of termination, which is unproven, and in direct contradiction with what he tweeted himself (he said everyone gets ~90 days of salary IIRC).

Painting him as reckless and stupid and like he doesn't know what he's doing is a great way to sink TSLA.

I certainly don't agree with everything he has said and done, though I can't help but be skeptical people are just jumping on the bandwagon without any concrete evidence/details.

I can't emphasize how strongly news outlets zero-in on topics that might be inflammatory with almost algorithmic precision. When Roe v. Wade was overturned, there was a story about some Amazon SWE's celebrating the outcome. It's a perfect blend of "Amazon bad + perennial political topic." Amazon has 70,000 software engineers; if some of them weren't politically conservative I'd be very surprised.

The intensity of "Tesla man bad" recently has been really astounding. I don't get it. I mean I kinda do but not this frothing mouth rabidity.

It' proportional to the "tesla man good" phenomenon, people would apparently sell their first born son before admitting anything Musk do is wrong

I see much more "tesla man bad" here on HN and especially on Reddit.

Personally, I'm in the "tesla man has some good and some bad camp."

it’s weird. The WARN law requires notice, but, the penalty for violating the law is you have to pay people 60 days of pay. So paying instead of providing notice is technically illegal, but enforcement is pointless if you pay people with no additional conditions. That being said, if you make the pay conditional such as requiring a non disparagement clause, that can be a problem, and is likely going to be a problem here. (Can’t be sure yet, I don’t believe anyone has the details from Twitter yet)

https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/eta/warn/faqs.asp

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