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I downloaded, started a new Kotlin based Selenium project and it does not work. JDK 17. I closed the IDE and tried it now and it does.

I think it's a great initiative but I would love if it launched with Playwright support as well at the beginning.

I groaned when I saw JetBrains. I love their editors but they have so little focus as an organization, many editors have bugs that have been unfixed for years and they don't polish one product before they move on to the next.

Yeah they are slowly going down the Eclipse path. Things don't work as naturally anymore, mess is accumulating (on a different level, more beautiful level though).

Is the test framework used in the IDE open-source? Can the tests run on CI/CD or is it for manual testing only?

This looks great, the unique xpath finder caught my eye the most. JetBrains makes some great stuff!

Web only for automation? Looking for better tooling than the horrible ones that exist for desktop test automation (TestComplete etc).

> Selenium

> Playwright (coming soon)

Why people still use Selenium? My brief experience with it was awful.

It works? We have an extensive set of Selenium-based tests (something like 5k of them), and it's fine. Why should we switch?

For selenium, "it works" is not a constant.

Not for Cypress either. I’m fairly certain it is just the nature of the beast.

I had like 50 Selenium-based tests and false-negatives were really common.

So I had to rerun tests a few times sometimes.

I know people who have Java tests that sometimes work, sometimes don’t. That usually speaks for the quality of a test itself.

What do you mean?

It's a library and not a framework. Besides the inherent superiority of libraries vs hollywood-principle frameworks, this lets you just import "from selenium import webdriver" in your code and have a programmable browser that you can use in various ways.

For example here's how to use it to

- download files with a browser: https://selenium-python.readthedocs.io/faq.html#how-to-auto-...

- grab screenshot of a site: https://selenium-python.readthedocs.io/faq.html#how-to-take-...

I would say universality. Selenium's webdriver has bindings to many languages and has more universal browser support, IMHO. But I see your point, downloading webdriver files manually and dealing with element awaiting isn't fun.

Really? Last time I needed browser automation for integration tests i just used selenide (jQuery inspired wrapper for selenium) and called it a day.

Had no issues whatsoever running the tests through maven and had a pretty good development experience.

It cannot test native desktop and mobile applications, right?

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