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And here come the lawsuits... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-04/twitter-s...

good luck.... Twitter is at-will.

Companies usually fire people on Friday, and show you the door the same moment.

As the first paragraph of that article points out, advance notice is required by federal law, if the company is sufficiently large and if sufficiently many people are being laid off at the same time. At-will employment is not relevant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retraini...

I don't see how you could give legitimate advance notice before you are in control of the company.

By paying them for the 60 days notice period from the day you notify them, that's how.

That probably works in the US but in some jurisdictions (e.g. parts of Europe) -- where I presume Twitter has [or had!] employees -- there are requirements for an actual consultation process before substantial layoffs.

You can give them notice when the decision is yours to make. And the then the termination can be legal at X days beyond that, if the legal requirement is X days notice. I don't see how "I Just bought it" matters?

I don't see how you decide how and who to fire before you are in control of the company, but that's just me

Yeah, the Warn Act doesn’t require you let them work for 60 days. If it’s triggered, it just means you have to pay them for 60 days. It is very common to not let them work, particularly when concerned about sabotage.

Sure. I haven't seen the actual legal complaint, so I don't know if it's just a publicity stunt, or if they actually have evidence that Musk is planning to not pay out the extra wages that he's (presumably) required to.

The NY Times makes it sound like there might be a legal case for a different reason:

> While federal and California laws require companies to provide advance notice of mass layoffs, it was not clear whether Mr. Musk had done so. A spokesman for California’s Employment Development Department said on Thursday evening that it had received no such notices from Twitter, which is based in San Francisco and is expected to report mass layoffs to the agency.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/03/technology/twitter-layoff...

They're suing under Californian law, which requires 60 days' notice for mass layoffs AFAIK.

I just don’t understand that. It is very common to give the layoff notice on the date of termination and to then pay them for 60 days. That complies with the Warn Act. I’m not a California lawyer, it that must be true there too. There’s no way they’d make you bring in hostile workers.

Just reason number 4893 that my company will never hire anyone residing in CA.

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