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Since you're willing to engage in such an argument, you should count by the number of civilian casualties and violations of human rights instead, in which China and Russia would be holding the top spots by a wide margin.

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Can you show some data to back that up? Post 9/11 US wars have displaced more than 38 million people and directly caused more than 900,000 deaths. China and Russia both have terrible records when it comes to human rights, but where are you getting the numbers that they have caused more deaths?

Great Leap Forward, Korean War(NK had support from China to kick it off), Chinese civil war. I see no reason to limit to post 9/11, but if you wish, then Covid is completely China's fault for lax preventative measures and killed more than 900,000.

By your logic, Congo should be topping that list for introducing HIV to the world and causing more than 40 million deaths. That sounds ridiculous to me, but hey whatever floats your boat.

>you should count by the number of civilian casualties and violations of human rights instead

US is 100x combined China and Russia for both civilian casualties and violation of human rights.

Dont forget US even sanctioned the UN Human Rights https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19/621435225/u-s-announces-its-w...

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/un-human-rights-co...

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