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> It is important to realize that even as we disagreed, we still used to agree on basic facts and then fought over what best to do next.

What are these basic facts that people used to agree on, but now don't agree on anymore?

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Election results come to mind.

Wikipedia has a list of controversial elections in the US[1].

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_controversial_election...

I know a lot of people who believe Gore won and that Bush stole the election. This is nothing new.

Tons of people in Florida with the same name as felons were purged right before the election. Those people were overwhelmingly black and likely to vote for gore. I think hardly anyone says that’s a stolen election, but it’s definitely a bit suspect. As far as I can tell there isn’t really any reason to claim 2020 was stolen, it’s 100% bs. No one was disenfranchised, although the house republicans tried to disenfranchise the entire state of Arizona on January 6th.

My entire family thinks 2000 was stolen and you at least slightly agree. These claims are not new to American democracy.

But who is disagreeing on facts? Stolen is an opinion about whether the purge qualifies or not. The 2020 deniers have no fact based claim at all.

Vaccine science

Anti-vaxxers have existed for as long as vaccines[1].

[1]: https://historyofvaccines.org/vaccines-101/misconceptions-ab...

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