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Oxford has gone back to Feudalism

telegraph.co.uk

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Feudalism is happening in a different way. Pretty soon the only people who can afford property will be those who already have. There will be the landowner class and the renter class who live at the landowners' pleasure.

Subtitle:

> New plans for a ‘15-minute city’, featuring unprecedented restrictions on drivers, channel the controlling spirit of Medieval England

Which was enough for me to lose interest.

Yes, it’s historically inaccurate to equate “feudalism” with “central management.”

But who cares? Medieval municipal governance has nothing to do with the article.

I’m a bit more peeved the article lacks details. What’s the name of the legislation? When is the vote on it? Is there a period of public comment?

It's important to establish straight up that the author is talking nonsense. It's like one of those nigerian prince scams. You don't want to engage anyone with any sense, so it filters out people early.

If you lead with your biggest bullshit claim, anybody who's still listening is going to be ill-equipped to dispute the comparatively more rational ones you're going to follow it up with.

The telegraph need to raise their journalistic standards, assuming they've had any in the first place.

Why not provide a link to the proposed legislation, or some video where the councillors are discussing it?

On another note, cars a bit of problem in busy cities with narrow streets, and bicycles are also too spartan for many people.

What is needed are those kind of tiny cars you see in Netherlands that carry a single person or two, but also good enough to carry shopping.

Banning cars is also over the top. Just make cycling facilities good enough for all people from the ages of 6 - 90, and enough people will switch to cycling to make cars less of a problem, electric or otherwise.

In many old English towns with narrow streets (the major cities included) you can guarantee that making cycling safe for all ages from 6-90 will be enough to move unnecessary driving of the streets.

Not sure there's anything either true, or of value, in this article.

councils will require residents to have a permit to work elsewhere in the city

you’ll need a permit to visit your mum a few streets away and can only do this twice a week

Typical Telegraph hysterical bullshit. It's becoming the broadsheet Daily Mail.

This piece from the Oxford Mail has rather more details about the scheme.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/23073992.traffic-filters-w...

It is certainly an aggressive plan to curb journey through the city. It feels like it’s just going to force more journeys out to the ring road, resulting in more miles travelled for many people.

While the Telegraph piece is very hyperbolic, this scheme looks like it will be a massive pain for many people in Oxford, and might just induce longer journeys.

I will be really interested to see how it works out over the next couple of years, and how it goes down with the Oxford electorate at the next local elections.

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