The end of social
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How have you been getting content from your friends? I'd love to hear about that from you.
On a related note, I thought I'd just share that I built this app called Handpick, which helps you be selective about what you share with whom you share:
Let me know if you might find this useful, I can send out invites.
- Alvin
- Alvin
This is a role that traditional publishers actively do today!
http://www.laphamsquarterly.org/
But yes. I agree with you. And not just the most interesting bits: the ones most out of my usual loops. We have this vast online space and find ourselves locked into a few echo chambers.
Roughly I need something (and my guess is that this is the same for everybody) which covers these areas:
* General news which actually matter. This includes stuff like SOPA (but only once and not on every tech site) as well as important elections and a few high profil criminal cases (but only the general overview I don't need to know the details) so that I can converse with others. This shouldn't be more than 20% and less than 10% most of the time.
News from friends and relatives -- a combination of Facebook and google plus sorta covers this, but it isn't very good since some people share so much that it gets irrelevant and others share almost nothing at all so I still miss important stuff. This should also be about 10%-15% Professional development -- essentially something like what they were trying to turn Code Quarterly into -- high quality, upto-date, high quality, long (but not padded for length) articles delivered about every two weeks. This magazine (which would properly be sent as an email) would be adfree (for the same reason consumer reports don't have ads) and fairly expensive. This should take up the rest of the time.
Now, I obviously didn't say that. I wouldn't say that to a male colleague either. I wouldn't even say something like that to my college roommates. I don't know what I was thinking. It just came into my head and I had to put a stop to acting on it.
But whenever I think about frictionless sharing, I'm going to think about people saying "balls" whenever they have the urge.
Loukides is right. There's no societal value to frictionless sharing, is there?
But to your point about the editor. In my stupid scenario, I was, thankfully, my own editor. Presumably Facebook doesn't share everything with everyone, only what it thinks should be shared. They've usurped the role of editor. So maybe that's their value ad? I can go around saying "balls" all day long, but Facebook will be kind enough to not relay the message to my grandmother.
One big problem we have today is that many on-line social sites become closed and introverted, which leads to the Internet echo chamber phenomenon. Heck, you're reading one of the best examples right now. Such places can still be interesting, informative, and insightful (as posters on another good example might put it) but they also tend not to introduce dramatically different ideas very often, which means that while you can learn a lot in the first few months of following the discussions and perhaps the early days of contributing, the useful-signal/noise ratio drops rapidly once you've seen 90% of the groupthink before.
Another big problem is that it's not just the sharing of citations (in whatever form) that is becoming a flood, it's also the content itself. The Internet is full of blogs where most of the ideas are not really new and original, most of the analysis is fairly superficial or based on second-hand thinking, but every now and then the author writes a gem and attracts attention. Perhaps this is human nature, but I think it's often a case of a blogger who has potentially interesting thoughts to share but who simply lacks the time or inclination to do detailed research and editing of their posts, making the hit-or-miss-but-mostly-miss result almost inevitable. Thus not only the aggregators/social news sites but also many of the sites they link to become a flood of same-old-story material.
I think people are going to tire of this before very long, as we start to realise quite how much time we waste maintaining superficial on-line relationships and consuming superficial content. However, it is difficult for anyone with life's many other commitments to do a good job of producing good content or of filtering what's out there. Sooner or later, we're going to have to admit that there is value in good content (including proper research, careful presentation, etc.) and either people who want to produce it as a hobby will have to spend more time writing fewer (but better) things or people who want to consume more good content are going to have to pay smart people to create it as a real job. Likewise, there is value in good curation, but having someone who can pick out a manageable level of good content to present to a community without becoming repetitve and while actively seeking relevant new ideas from new sources is often not a job you can do in an hour a night, either through your own work or through focussing a user-generated stream that accepts submissions in real time.
I'm not sure we're ever going to get an idealised situation because every individual has different interests and, just as importantly, might be interested in different new ideas if they found out about them. But I'm pretty sure we can make a decent first approximation, at least as good as any of the big name on-line social discussion sites today. We're just going to have to pay for it, one way or another, sufficient to attract the relatively few people who are both willing and able to produce and curate really good content if they have the chance.
Among other similarities, the short story is remarkably prescient for being written in 1909
I am more interested by the continued bleating of friends for new ideas and the continued rejection of ideas throughout it than by the predictions of a worldwide communication network. 'News' aggregators and commenting systems, a hundred years ago.
Makes me wonder if mining old sci-fi stories for things to build would be worthwhile.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. For most people, who have (or would have) interest in a lot of different areas, there are probably already several lifetimes' worth of new ideas out there if they can only find and enjoy them. Such is the power of connecting billions of people in a global network.
On the other hand, while that solves the breadth problem for those who want to develop themselves as rounded individuals, it doesn't attack the depth problem for those who want to advance a particular field of art or science that they really care about. I think we might do best at that by adopting something like academic practices of ongoing sharing and collaboration, but done on a global scale by anyone who cares, and with something way better than journals as the means of peer review and promoting the best new ideas to the top so others can expand and build on them. Of course, it needn't necessarily be an academic subject either, it could be anything from sports coaching to cookery.
It's long, but worth it.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1826825
http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/DAED_a_00114
I listen to a lot of new music. My Spotify account is linked to Facebook. Seeing an automatically posted list of the last 70 songs I listened to might be interesting to a stalker, but having me specifically post "Bah, the new Weeknd mixtape isn't nearly as good as House of Balloons" actually tells you something about my taste.
In the same way that facebook let people 'send emails' that didn't have to be read, these sidebar updates allow you to 'post statuses' that don't have to be looked at. It is adding a new priority level to communication. Kind of like the background music in a coffeeshop, you wouldn't say you go there just for the music, but you definitely appreciate the ambiance and the music is something that adds up to make that experience.
The 'this doesn't matter' priority?
Communication between people is tiered in importance, and this is the first step in acknowledging that. I think the ticker is a genius idea.
There is a such thing as having too much shared information to deal with, but Facebook filters it and presents it in a way that I find useful.
For example, I wish Facebook told me aggregate info, like 12 of my friends are reading X book, and 15 listen to Y song, and 5 have liked Z restaurant. To me this is a lot more compelling as I can see real trends in what my social circle is consuming.
But I wonder whether 20 year-olds who have been immersed in this kind of thing for 3-4 years would agree. And what today's 13-year-olds will think then they are 20, and this has been a part of their entire post-childhood..
I agree with this article, but I may not represent the "average" Facebook-visitor, considering I barely read my friends updates, create updates of my own or play Facebook-games. (I visit for two groups which I participate actively in)
Sharing everything takes the value out of it, and I think most people, 20-year olds or not, would agree. Perhaps that's why I've stopped checking what my friends are saying, my interests are already way too specialised for me to have any interest in what they blast out to everyone.
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It's currently on page 7 of the top.
Or how a cheap, thoughtful gift means more than a $100 bill at Christmas.
It's the effort, the thought, that really counts.
If they don't know about last.fm, why do they bother? They obviously don't care about music very much.
Facebook, with Spotify, gives you the useless part (the "Now playing") without the good part (the advanced stats, recommandations, music compatibility, etc)
Others have figured out, the world doesn't end with facebook.