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The agile manifesto does not dictate any team or organisational structure.

SAFe prescribes a bunch of structures, councils and processes. It is by design anti agile.

Edit: this image highlights the paradox: https://www.agilest.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/scaled-ag...

Just try to count all the roles and processes prescribed.

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And I would just like to emphasize, most of the terms and titles you see on that slide are capital-letter Proper Nouns. The agile manifesto is more a _vibe_ about how to think about work, and how to approach the process. SAFe is a full on cult that absolutely depends on every single part on that slide doing exactly what is prescribed, or else it all falls apart.

If anyone comes and tries to sell you stuff using a chart that looks like that, better show them the door immediately. That thing seems optimized to cause upper management hypnosis by its expertly designed cavalcade of hollow bullshit terminology.

I've never seen this chart before, but I've worked with people previously that I know would get instantly giddy with excitement looking at this.

The meaningless terms, the disconnected-flow-chart-but-not-a-flow-chart, the deluge of acronyms, the weird visuals and the inscrutable words and relationships, it's all there.

It's a document I'd attempt to create if I was trying to parody consultants and business shenanigans, but it's real.

I’m having an allergic reaction after looking at that chart. Where did I put that epipen?

Very lean indeed.

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