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I do not really buy this reasoning. Glyphosate has been proven to be harmful [ source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate ]. Other things might be worse, sure, but that does not mean we can allow Glyohosate to be used without thinking about the risks.

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Risk is not all-or-nothing, and I am not saying glyphosate should be used without worrying about the risks. I am saying people have their relative risk assessment all wrong. There are different degrees of risk, and believe it or not, the known risks of glyphosate are dwarfed by the known risks of other alternatives.

Show me someone who can come up with a better herbicide, and I will show you a wealthy person.

Shortlist of those other herbicides?

I personally don't know of any that we know is better than glyphosate, so literally any herbicide.

I admit that there very well could be better options that I don't know about (especially if there are new ones that emerged in the last 10-20 years), but I think it's no exaggeration to say that almost anything else is worse.

They’re asking for a list of the more concerning ones.

I understand that. I responded with "essentially the list of all other herbicides". I don't know where you could find a complete list, but let me google that for you... this might be a place to start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Herbicides

They said “short list” not all.

They now have instructions that would allow them to assemble their short list.

Just pick a couple that look interesting from the larger one.

So your claim is that there are much worse things people should focus on but you refuse to point out which these are?

This whole discussion seems extremely hyperbolic…

It sounds to me like you just don't want to believe it could be true that nearly any other thing could be worst.

Other commenters have provided good short lists. Do you want me to repeat them?

Atrazine, cyanazine, trifluralin come to mind

* Atrazine

* 2,4-D

* Dicamba

* Trifluralin

* Pendimethylin

Go find a herbicide that doesn’t have a list of health concerns and environmental effects… which anybody uses.

Your own link disagrees with you. I think you are proving OPs point. Paraquat is an entirely different beast and is known to bad but people lump glyphosate in with really nasty stuff for no real reason.

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