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But we can see Twitter being supported by extreme right foundations.

I'm from Brazil and the extreme right is abusing all the communication platforms. it's a complete madness in what people believe right now. Our society is on the verge of crumbling.

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the same could said about the far left in America. well i guess it could be said about the far right too. its up to the folks in the middle, the progreservatives (or consegressives depending on how you look at it), to end the madness but most of us are too busy living our own lives to care about how crazy the fringes of society are beyond the entertainment value of it all.

I'd be interested to see some examples of the far left trying to influence communication platforms.

isn't it the far left that's all up in arms about musk buying Twitter in the first place? to me the average left leaning person could give two shits about who owns Twitter, yet a ton of Twitter employees vowed to quit if the deal went through. subjective as it is, those of which I'd consider far left.

So the far left wants to control twitter because there are people that want to leave twitter if musk runs it, and these people must be from the far left because...

...of the intolerant views that they subscribe to that have been covered time and time again during this saga over the last few months.. oh but wait, there is intolerant views on the right too? id wager a fair bit that any right leaning employees of Twitter, intolerant as they may be, are snug as a bug in a rug right now, as are the centrists

You don't have to view everything through such a political lens.

Musk constantly shits on the work those people did and says he's going to change it all. I bet they have some pride in what they built and it would feel insulting for some outsider to constantly criticize without knowing the reasons why they did what they did. I'd feel hurt too. Plus his companies have a reputation for chewing you up and spitting you out again. People might not like the cultural U-turn.

Please stop talking about the far left. It's just silly. It's like 12 people who share these extreme views and comparing them to the far right is really misleading. The far right are organised and training with weapons. The far left are arguing on Twitter with anime profile pics.

that could very well be the reason why some are leaving, but its not those people that are broadcasting their intentions. you could also say his organizations have a standard of excellence that many feel they can achieve, but few are capable of.

saying that the far left is in no way comparable to the far right is pretty silly. they both exist, they both have violent sects, both have anime fans, and there are most definitely more than 12 of them

Hunter Biden laptop that the FBI have confirmed real Banning Andrew Tate when Pierce Morgan and many others think he is opinionated but should not be banned.

And hell they banned Jordan Peterson?

I don't know what kinda echo chamber you operate in to think the 'left' is not 'trying to influence communication platforms'

Media Matters and Vox publicly campaigned for a year to demonetize YouTube, by methodically threatening brands with publication of screenshots of ads next to niche controversial content. This happened via private emails to executives, followed by viral social media posts when the brands did not satisfy their demands in a timely manner. This culminated in the "adpocalypse", which consisted of those targeted Fortune 500 brands pulling out and disavowing YouTube. YouTube implemented sweeping policies that demonetized political channels on both sides and even LGBTQ+ channels. In the end, everyone lost.

Can you give me a source for that? I'm asking because where I live a company sprang up during that time, who employed the exact same tactic. Posted those sorts of screenshots, not of Youtube but of our company's display ads on platforms like Seekingalpha and other sites they deemed to be fake news or extremist, and when our digital marketing didn't respond to them, they sent the screenshots to executives within the company. This ultimately led to us having to buy their brand safety monitoring service because the CEO was scared of backlash.

>I'd be interested to see some examples of the far left trying to influence communication platforms.

Have you heard of reddit?

There are many such examples. Look at the group "Stop Funding Hate" in the UK that constantly harasses companies who advertise in newspapers and news channels that aren't dominated by the left.

Preservatives?

haha! perfect! without preservatives, the pros and cons would sour society in no time. sure, they may cause cancer in some, but overall they are a benefit to everyone.

there is no far left in the US. The 'left' here would be center/right in most other countries. The right/conservatives are the true evil who are responsible for basically every bad thing here and the real problem is that most of this country is conservative, and thinks this country is 'special'.

Far left in the US is the group that promotes things like:

- extreme intersectionality

- the original non-diluted Marxism-inspired version of CRT (e.g. punctuality and objectivism in academia are “white values”)

- literal dissolution of police (not just creating better social services)

and much more. So they are far left not in the classic sense. This term has been somewhat redefined in the context of culture war (similar to far right).

Sounds like someone has been on Breitbart a lot

Right. At least you didn't call me a Nazi. You sound like one of the people who think CRT is "just history" without reading any of the actual books on CRT.

How do you define far left in the US? People who advocate for the redistribution of income and wealth and for a brotherhood of all workers?

Yeah, as a European whenever people say "the left in the US would be considered right-wing in Europe" I shake my head. When it comes to social issues, the extremes in the US are far more pronounced, both on the right and the left.

Twitter hasn't been burdened by "extreme right" "abusing all communication platforms."

If it was, then we would have seen a left exodus years ago and not suddenly coming up now. This comment has me so confused.

Probably because you seemed to have partisan worms in your brain. Twitter HAS been burdened by the "extreme right" abusing its platform. Its the entirety of the debate around what should be moderated on twitter. Insisting that this can't be true because "the left" hasn't had an exodus doesn't seem to make sense to me.

There is simply not many places to go. You can’t really keep running t from madness all the time since with social media platforms the destination must be at least somewhat inhabited, and also the exodus must be coordinated. It’s more like moderate left left left, the extreme right were expelled, and extreme left stayed out of grit and also because Twitter was sort of left to them .

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