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I wonder if at some point a leader has to step away - not necessarily because the strategy is wrong (I have no idea); but because for whatever reason, right or wrong - no one really wants that leader to win.

No one in the community likes Zuckerberg. No one wants him to win. Meta - the company - could restore its image and rebuild trust with a new leadership. But not while he is there.

Not commenting on whether this is just - whether he has gotten a bad rap or not. Am speaking just to the reality of the perception.

If it were me - I would step away, not just for the sake of the company - but for my own as well. I would want to take my wealth and see what else I could do with it - how else might I be able to contribute and give back? Think of both Gates and Jobs when apart from MS and Apple. It's not just a chance for the company to reinvent itself, but the leader as well.

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Zuckerberg's name is synonymous with Facebook/Meta. People aren't going to start trusting the company even if he steps away. They would have to first change their entire business model and get rid of everything people have a problem with, leaving nothing remaining.

My wife uses Facebook a lot. Coordinating with other parents (mothers mostly) who volunteer at our kid's school. Posting kid pictures for the benefit of grandparents, extended family, and old friends. I think she's pretty representative of who uses Facebook for what nowadays.

And the insane crazy moderation drives her up the wall. Just the other day, she posted an announcement to a private group, asking for parents to volunteer at the school. Almost immediately, Facebook removed it, because it contained "nudity". There was absolutely nothing in the picture but text, and a coloured background. It was obvious why their software thought it was "nudity" though – she'd chosen a pinky-peach background, roughly that of pale human skin.

Barely a week goes by when she doesn't complain to me about some mindless Facebook moderation inconsistency. If Facebook don't improve, eventually someone else will move in and take over that particular market segment, just like TikTok/Snapchat/etc have already taken over others.

obviously someone in the group hates your wife and is reporting all her posts for nudity lmao

Tell your wife there are better options. #Signal

> Zuckerberg's name is synonymous with Facebook/Meta

With creating Facebook - maybe. But with trust to Facebook - I know many regular people who uses FB to run all kinds of local groups, and I never heard from one of the "we use FB because we trust Zuckerberg". His name may come up when something is not working or when people get randomly banned for nothing, but never in the context of trust. And, TBH, I can't remember anything Zuckerberg has ever done to make people trust FB more as a company.

PS: Oh, and nobody gives a flying about "Meta". The idea that people are itching for bad-graphics boring super-expensive gadget that would allow them to do something they never wanted to do... that's why this company is in trouble.

This is what happened at Uber, and I think ultimately it was good for the company.

I agree with you that Zuck should walk away and the company should bring new leadership that can change the image and culture of the company.

It seems likely that he’d use his wealth to build something worse for society if he moves on.

People don’t really hold on to grudges for so long. I believe the hatred is manufactured by the media- nytimes, foxnews, bbc, cnn pretty much all media hate him. Why wouldn’t they? He took a big piece out of their pie.

I dislike him even without being fanned by the media. Totally organic dislike for him and his product and his privacy invasion.

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