Cue corporation selling you "Full Self Driving" for 5 figures, allowing your vehicle to become autonomous. Except you have to be alert and behave as if it wasn't. At all times. Of course.
If they deliver it, then (at that time, and depending on how well it works), the complaints of not-good-enough or dangerous-killing-people could come into play.
The second thing sounds even more dangerous to Tesla - smart to keep delaying (and building up that first risk higher and higher!)
There might be an awkward silence when you ask why as recently as six months ago, it was still happily hopping the curb of roundabouts, or why even to this very day, there's no AEB capability in FSD (if your foot is on the accelerator, the car will consider that a higher priority input than an imminent collision).
You learn very quickly on the water to get out of the way of large private yachts when in open waters. There is literally no one at the helm. Even if they did notice you, they aren't in a position to halt the boats travel.
Most hit-and-runs don't even result in jail time[1]. But sure, I can believe that hitting and killing the wrong person may once in a blue moon result in the law coming down on you like a ton of bricks.
[1] https://abcnews.go.com/US/hit-run-drivers-kill-people-jail-t...
It basically says that statistics on conviction are unknown, and sometimes people don't see jail time.
And no, the driver wasn't drinking. They were 17 at the time and went to prison instead of college. I remember it because they had a soccer scholarship. I was scared because it could have easily have been me going to prison
Your point only alleges that amateur yacht drivers act irresponsibly, not that naval autopilot systems are inherently unsafe.
It can't visually identify non-ADS-B traffic (and I'm not even sure yet if it will avoid ADS-B equipped traffic?), it can't comply with ATC clearances, it can't coordinate with other pilots in the pattern, and it will happily fly your aircraft right into potentially-fatal icing conditions. It certainly can't be used during routine flight.
Garmin Autoland is a wonderful piece of engineering, but even at best it's not a replacement for what a pilot would normally be doing to safely navigate. It's strictly there as a last-resort measure if the pilot is incapacitated.
It’s feels almost like full self driving when you drive on the highway.
It makes the ride significantly less tiresome but I would say it definitely reduces my attention.
I can totally see how people with more capable systems may treat the car as intelligent enough to drive %100 by itself and became negligent.
Then comes some smarter ones like Tesla AP or comma.ai which are pretty good at centering on straight roads, curve roads, wide lanes, lane splitting etc.
I upgraded to a Comma 3 and it's basically is night and day. The car never hunts from side to side and it uses eye tracking so I don't have to touch the wheel. Again if you have to touch a wheel on a ACC system, just drive the car haha.
I disagree with this. I use to get RSI type pain from long drives. The constant, small tweaks really took a toll on my hands/wrists/forearms.
When my car's lane centering isn't perfect, it still takes 90% of the force off. It's even more noticeable in windy conditions. Lane centering fights all of the gusts automatically.
I think that's a good balance, because it's giving you alerts but you're still the one driving.
While my Tesla is working to keep the car perfectly centered in the highway lane, it frees me to focus on higher-level situational awareness during the drive.
In particular, I find I can more quickly and consistently identify and avoid other distracted drivers, because I can look more closely at those features without drifting a few inches out of the middle of the lane.
Just because you are not steering does not mean you have to disengage from driving. The focus on steering as a proxy for engagement is over-simplistic. Manual steering just to lane center can lead to “blind stare” which causes many accidents, so it’s a lossy proxy for attention / focus.
As a new technology is adopted and people become less scared of the change, it eventually comes to a point where a new generation laughs at how things used to be done.
What HN consistently likes to frame as a fundamental human limitation (“driving without actively steering can never be safe”) is in fact just a faulty assumption and purely conjecture in the context of a modern car cockpit with advanced lane keeping, adaptive cruise, object detection, and driver gaze & blink tracking.
Another difference is that piloting a boat or a plane is usually much less dependent on quick reactions than when you are driving a car. The skies and seas are much more open, with much less traffic than on the road. On a well trimmed plane, I could probably sleep for 10 minutes and there is a good chance nothing will happen. Obviously, it is excessively dangerous, but I am not almost guaranteed to crash as I would be on a car. Flying or sailing is more about precision and planning than it is about reacting.
never get tired listening to the guy. He is just amazing.
Sailing boat off American Samoa maintaining watch, but watch crew unable to change course (we did).
Near miss with unidentified floating object.
Automating the easiest parts of driving and just expecting a human to jump in and figure out the tricky stuff in an instant is just such a horrible design that it’s hard to see how it’s gone this far.
Same. I thought they'd get slapped hard and forced to stop doing that YEARS AGO.
Instead they doubled down and started selling "full self driving"
lmao.
The second something that's not autopilot was marketed as autopilot should have been an instant barrage from the FTC.
The second Musk committed securities fraud for "funding secured" he should have been banned from ever being an officer or director in a publicly listed company.
The second it became clear that Tesla was ignoring the requirement to have a Twitter Nanny on Musk's Twitter, the SEC should have obliterated the Tesla board.
But this is the post-Obama US, where insider trading is fine as long as it's the Right People doing it. Where bankers and investors can take obscene and reckless risk knowing the tax payer will cover their loses. Where a President's son can openly try to sell influence - who knows with what degree of success - and the intelligence agencies won't move a finger. So the Musk saga makes perfect sense.
Musk was not facing overregulation by not having to commit fraud and misleading consumers.
I personally think Tesla would be a better company today without Elon Musk. The reality is they’re not executing on the one thing that makes them money. They’re nearly 2 years late on their pickup truck which is a license to print money in the United States. We’re JUST seeing the first deliveries of the semi but who the fuck knows when production scales. The kind of risks he’s taking (removing radar from cars, losing billions of dollars while putting up Tesla stock as collateral to buy twitter, cryptocurrency nonsense) is just not the type of thing you do when you’re the size Tesla is today.
Tesla is just insanely distracted right now shareholders are eventually going to be punished. If I only knew when, because I believe there’s money to be made.
I don't think the claims are solely about the name "autopilot", but additional names and marketing.
There is a second mode in some. There it broadcasts emergency, uncontrolled plane will land, get of my way as I won't get out of yours. Useful if the pilot is dead (so a passenger who is told hit that button in an emergency can safely land), but cannot be used for anything else.
It has a different name because it is different from traditional autopilot that just maintain heading and altitude.
> [A man] was driving along in his motor home. He turned on his ‘cruise control’. Apparently misunderstanding the function of ‘cruise control’, he then went into the back of the motor home. The motor home drove off the road and crashed. Apparently he did not realize that ‘cruise control’ is not ‘autopilot.’
This story is apocryphal, but it illustrates that the popular understanding of 'autopilot' for road vehicles was full self-driving.
The self-driving feature also steers the car, stops at signals and stop signs, merges onto the freeway, etc. Those are all things that adaptive cruise control does not do.
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-69AEB32...