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There are quite a few players though. In addition to AWS and Azure, there's also Oracle and IBM.

I'd also put companies like Digital Ocean into that space as well, plus other VPS providers, including specialty providers like Vast that focus on deep learning hardware, potentially Backblaze for backups, etc. Even if they're not direct competitors, they're eating into services that might otherwise provide margin (or even just a funnel) for the larger cloud providers.

Does anybody really use those for generic cloud projects though?

My impression was that those were geared towards firms who have already bought heavily into the Oracle/IBM consulting/licensing.

They're not clouds where Netflix or Spotify are going to spin up a few thousand servers. Unless I've been misinformed?

So they don't really seem to be in the same category. I mean is anyone not already in the IBM ecosystem ever choosing between AWS and IBM?

WhatsApp, Fitbit, tumblr among many others ran on IBM. Of course none were what I’d consider “generic cloud projects”, they chose IBM bc of specific capabilities not easy to achieve on other hyperscalers. -unless you run your own hyperscaler.

Zoom runs on Oracle Cloud. I guess Red Hat's managed stuff now runs on IBM cloud but they bought their way into that.

> Does anybody really use those for generic cloud projects though? My impression was that those were geared towards firms who have already bought heavily into the Oracle/IBM consulting/licensing.

You could say the same about Azure. I see a lot of click-next-collect-cheque being done in Azure, only with a browser instead of a desktop wizard.

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