Chrome: Sunsetting support for Windows 7 / 8.1 in early 2023
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Windows 11 18%
Windows 10 71%
Windows 8.x / 7 11%
That is, the percentage of 8/7 is still very much non-trivial. Though our user base is probably skewed towards techy people.Another thing to keep in mind is that Windows 8.1 is still supported by Microsoft for another three months. Windows 8.1 is not outdated yet, not even according to Microsoft. Chrome's support will end a month after Microsoft's support ends, I'd think because very few people actually use 8.1 compared to the rest of the world.
In case your customers ask, Windows 7/8.1 users may be able to use Firefox (ESR, if necessary) if they want a maintained browser. The current Firefox ESR should be supported until at least August of next year and if Mozilla includes 7/8.1 support in version 115, then support should last until at least the end of next year.
and Pale moon, SeaMonkey, K-Meleon etc and judging by the Win XP situation a plethora of other (Chinese or not) Chromium based browsers as well.
https://msfn.org/board/topic/182794-updated-browser-list-for...
My favourite comment in one of the threads about it:
"Related "MS ended support for Win7" - sorry, how it corresponds to development?! Does your operating system gone away from SSD? Or Windows become rusty? Not. SYSTEM WORKS AS BEFORE, so please don't write stupid reasons "MS doesn't support" - nobody care of it, system works as usual and nothing prevents you from using Win7 (as I do now)."
I kind of like the no-nonsense honesty of it; made me smile :-) I don't think it's necessarily smart to keep running on Windows 7 given the support status, but they're not entirely wrong either: Windows 7 is a fine system. It works. Why "upgrade"?
Im da sheng, beratna.
Sure, keep using it. Just don't complain when one of a million external variables your software depends on suddenly stops working and nobody cares.
This is just nonsense. If the user feels so strongly, why don't they maintain the relevant software themselves and find out just how easy (not) it is to maintain support for an EOL operating system? Or why don't they just stick to outdated versions of all their software, like they chose to do with their operating system? Harassing open source developers who work for free is not a sane response.
If no, then the machines with Windows 7 could only be run offline, and existing software will continue to work as it is.
Forking over a couple hundred to uncle Bill for protection every five years or so is not entirely pointless.
...as you always should be anyway.
Forking over a couple hundred to uncle Bill for protection every five years or so is not entirely pointless.
...and being forced into their increasingly user-hostile manipulations? If anything, that saying about "known unknowns" and "unknown unknowns" comes to mind.
Yeah, I think 7 was the last good version. 8.1 was "sorry for 8.0" but the damage was done and the path forward (wonkily sideways and backwards) was set.
What's this end your are taking about? People day that about every new version of Windows at least since the 95 release and it doesn't seem to be happening.
> I'm not saying the old style is better for everyone, just me
I'm on the same page. But also, I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with getting used to the new interface, except it doesn't show all the things the old interface had, some of which I use(d) frequently enough to be annoyed about their absence, meaning that I'd have to go back to the old interface, in turn meaning that I can't yet forget the old to make brain-space for the new. I find this infuriating, possibly because it highlights my brain's personal tech-debt; some kind of "curse of knowing".
Windows 7 was the last user friendly OS Microsoft has released, in my opinion. Windows 10 was a desperate attempt to take the 8 framework and stuff it into the desktop, but I don't think it's all as well-integrated as Windows 7 was.
It's a shame. The Windows 10/11 kernel is a marvel of technology. I just wish I could run the Windows 7 UI on top of it (and disable all the obnoxious tracking).
The decline definitely began at 8 and has accelerated recently.
Zoinks!
There are also lock screen ads by default called "windows spotlight"
This is the kind of user disrespecting stuff that I switched to Fedora for. I paid for your damn operating system. Stop jerking me around
Serious question. How do I enable ads on my windows 10 install? I reinstalled a while ago and don't feel like I've done anything special and windows has not shown me any ads that I am aware of.
My lockscreen is a randomized background, which I quite like, and a prompt for my user & password. Nothing else.
My start menu was shrunk in width to get rid of all of those tiles and just shows a list of software I have installed, and can be searched by typing in it. No ads, unless you count the "recently added" section listing software I installed recently.
Same reason you have that on iOS -- to easily reset it if the ad network gets too creepy.
It's not widely in use, and refers to the ad network available in some UWP/Store apps, e.g.: some of the ad-supported Microsoft casual games.
That's not too far from https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey which is gives a 2.52% average for all Steam games.
(In general, “deprecating” is what’s being done no later than when they announce the pending removal. Deprecation means that it still works for now, but is not recommended and may go away in the future.)