https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/bumble-now-unsolicited-...
> This sending of unsolicited nudes, or cyberflashing, is not only violent and pernicious, it’s entirely without consequences in 49 states.
> Now, the sending of a lewd photo without the recipient’s consent is a Class C misdemeanor in Texas, punishable by a fine of up to $500.
There's a bill waiting for a Governor's signature in Virginia (which I guess will make it illegal there) and some bills being discussed / worked on in other places but as far as I can tell from the article, Texas is currently the only state with an actual law on the books to make it illegal.
When the western world is so isolated from violence that a naked photo is labeled as such..
Don't get me wrong, that is probably a good thing. And of course I am against unsolicited nudes, but "violence" is a bit of a stretch
[1] https://www.anwalt.de/rechtstipps/strafanzeige-wegen-des-ver...
I'd argue though that this only comes about unintentionally because 184i (sexual harassment) only covers physical sexual harassment.
Meanwhile non-physical sexual harassment is completely legal in Germany unless it is an insult in itself (185).
IMHO the proper way is to mostly yeet 184 (because there is no particular reason for the state to morally regulate porn using the criminal code apart from stuff like CSAM) and criminalize sexual harassment in general (physical or not). That's of course going to be a hard sell for German conservatives (I can already see CDU and AfD go "the leftist greens dictatorship is making DATING illegal!")
It's not unthinkable, particularly as the generation "18th birthday gift? Onlyfans account" enters political life, that the same will happen again. Additionally, the youth protection commission NRW is on a holy crusade against Pornhub and other sites - should they eventually be successful, younger people who don't care about the news and only react when they see their favourite porn site going dark in Germany may rise up and demand reforms as well.
And on top of that, boomers are thankfully slowly dying out and retiring, so the gerontocrats in parliament will go away as well.
They aren't saying people can be naked in front of other people, but that flashing people shouldn't be allowed.
If I put my arm around someone or lean in for a kiss that could be unsolicited but shouldn't be illegal in the context of a date. Similarly dirty talking in a date is different to doing it in the office.
I suppose this could be dealt with through user preferences (don't show nudes/ doesn't appreciate nudes) but the line seems blurred in this situation. It isn't as if you're walking around town in a Mac.
I'm not saying it's ok, but it's not definitely, not ok. People are different, dating is already hard enough without worrying about if you're going to be arrested for trying to get to second base.
Some people might want that, and for them it would make sense if platforms added an opt-in feature to signal their interest in unsolicited nudes, or to opt-out of whatever form of filtering there might be.
But the default should be that you can open an app for meeting people without being forced to see someone's dick.
And I didn't claim the first paragraph was the case.
But I can see a flirty conversation getting to a point where sending a nude might be reasonable to one party. Just like putting a hand on someone's inner thigh might be reasonable to one party at a certain point in a date. It may not be appreciated, signs might have been misread, but unless you want people to sign contracts before they go to bed with each other there's always the danger of there being misunderstandings. And in my view misunderstandings shouldn't be criminalised.
My girlfriend might not appreciate me sending her nudes. I hope we can agree that's different to flashing at random people on the street.
My point is there's nuance. This isn't a black and white issue, certainly in the context of a dating app.
And what does directly even mean in this context? The standards for initiating sex don't require a sit down conversation as to what each party is agreeing to. So why should nude sending be held to a different standard?
She tells me off if I suggest going to bed to have sex because it kills the mood. So what? Am I to give up sex because our views on consent don't match up with your views?
Have you ever actually been in a relationship? Or do you just have an aversion to sponteniety?
"The standards for initiating sex don't require a sit down conversation as to what each party is agreeing to."
This attitude leads to women having sex/relations they aren't super comfortable doing. It's not a mood killer if you take a beat just to make sure you're on the same page with expectations and it takes a lot less time than locating, opening, and putting on a condom.
You stated in a different comment that your gf tells you off and it kills the mood if you ask to move to the bedroom or having sex while impaired, but surely you realize that's a totally different situation than you meeting up with someone from a dating app, right? Spontaneously acting with someone you know and with who you have built trust is waaaaaay different than sending an unsolicited nude or making advances on someone who is a little more than a stranger.