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My two cents as a Linux based developer - my 11th gen Framework has been largely fantastic. There was some annoying BIOS issues but they pushed a fix, there was bad battery life, but they pushed a fix.

Overall it feels like an indie device still, but I’d take that over the mass production walled garden nonsense of competing machines. I feel like I own this device more than any other recent electronic purchases other than perhaps my Raspberry Pis.

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I second this. It definitely has some issues and I wouldn't recommend it just yet for people that aren't willing to tinker with it but at least you can tinker with it and I haven't had a problem yet that I don't think a reasonably competent user couldn't find a workaround for.

If that's not your jam, then you should probably wait a bit. I really hope framework is able to get things sorted out so it can be more mainstream but for that to happen, they need early adopters.

If you don't mind a bit of tinkering (I've spent maybe 2-3 hours in the 2 months I've owned mine), don't be scared. Before getting mine, I read some stories and was really worried I'd be in over my head and end up regretting a $1400 purchase but as of right now, I'm really thrilled with it.

Quick edit: I have a 12th gen if it matters

I agree with both of you guys. I've had my 11th gen Framework (DIY running Linux) for a year now, and I'm in love. However, I wouldn't recommend it to the average person. That person should probably just get a cheap Chromebook (not the $999 one sold by Framework), or Surface Pro running Windows S mode that's impossible to break (in software), which runs perfectly out-of-the-box and can go to the Best Buy Geek Squad or Microsoft store whenever they need help. My opinion is that the Framework will never be a mass market product because the average person doesn't want to spend time choosing individual hardware components and taking it apart to swap them when they need a repair or upgrade. I think they should just double-down on serving the niche desktop Linux and tinkerer market.

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