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I tried it with a few simple apps and the performance in very simplistic card-like games was ~20 fps on a very powerful PC. The input lag was very noticable when dragging cards with the mouse, so the performance is very, very far from native.

Windows Subsystem for Android currently uses the same infrastructure for GPU virt as the Android Emulator (ie command stream encapsulation with gfxstream, virtio-gpu device).

Anyone else find the "Windows Subsystem for x" naming terribly confusing? It sounds like the exact opposite of what it is.

It makes sense if it's read Windows' (Subsystem for x)

rather than as (Windows Subsystem) for x.

After all these years being confused, finally I saw some explanation that actually makes sense, thank you.

I also always thought it was backwards. Only when you asked did I finally think about how to make sense of it and understood myself. Thanks for asking.

Same since day one I always get it the other way around. I still don't understand why it is named like that.

Funny how has always been easier running Android, a Linux-based system, apps on Windows rather Linux.

Wrong, windows uses a VM

With linux you don't need a VM:

https://waydro.id/

This was probably meant as reply to sibling comment. Or you just misunderstood my comment. (Was talking about UX not the implementation.) That said how Waydroid differs from Anbox? It looks like the exact same approach. (And Anbox was a mess to install and performance was subpar.)

UX? it's perfectly integrated, you can run apps without the shell

a linux OS install is not 40gb, unlike windows wich ship with all the bloat imaginable, by default you get just a kernel, that's what allow linux to scale from small embedded to datacenters and with some desktop capabilities, for waydroid, installation is pretty smooth

as for performance, it's bare metal, you can play 3D games with HW acceleration

3D games running on a linux phone, including PUBG ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyOgI8PRt9w

>as for performance, it's bare metal, you can play 3D games with HW acceleration

Is this something you tried yourself?

edit: Just saw well... the edited reply. Yeah, looks good. But wonder where the obvious performance hit in video comes from. Like, is it the software or the device.

Yes, i have VMs for android, macOS, Windows ready with virtmanager/kvm, gpu passthrought, baremetal perf

linux for my casual, dev, gaming needs

macOS for my testing and video/audio/photo editing needs

windows for my testing and when a game doesn't work with proton needs

A matter of a simple command line

    boot macos

    boot windows
   
    boot android

You can't match that UX and performance with windows ;)

EDIT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7SG7ccjn-g

That's all good but also irrelevant. Was specifically asking about Waydroid.

I said i used to use waydroid too, not anymore because i don't need the integration with my OS, virtmanager/kvm is a setup that suits my workflow better, that doesn't change the fact that waydroid offers better UX and performance than WSA

Countless people playing with Waydroid on their phone on youtube, and you still argue

Can you play android games on your windows phone with WSA? i don't think so

> Can you play android games on your windows phone with WSA? i don't think so

Then the only useful case for this is running a weather widget. Windows got rid of widgets since Win 7

Considering that the Windows subsystem for Linux is just a VM, if they have done the same for Android then it's not going to be much different as to running it on Linux in a VM.

> Windows Subsystem for Android declared ready for prime time

Translation: They managed to compile it. Good job, Microsoft ! /s

I hope this enables someone to make a new Windows Phone.

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