Most of US is accessible via freight rail or road freight transport. Ships transport almost exclusively foreign made products, today.
That's the primary reason why the merchant fleet is wasting away - there's no demand for marine transportation between US ports, other than required by Jones Act.
I have 0 interest in building something that has little to no use in a free market.
So better have ship building capacity at 0% of China's and it be impossible to buy US built ships at any cost?
In a vacuum, the Jones Act should be encouraging the construction of new shipyards and/or freight rail infrastructure. That neither seems to have happened suggests that other barriers exist, and those barriers need addressed, Jones Act or no.
Let alone - merchant ships are needed to trade and interact with allies in these extreme situations. And last I checked Maersk is a Danish company, and Danmark is a close ally.
I agree that the Jones Act sucks, but I do think there's some valid reason behind trying to do what it tried to do.
As it stands - merchant fleet of US allied nations is strong enough for US to not need one at all.
It's still a national security issue that there's little domestic shipbuilding. In the event of a major war, it would be useful to have domestic shipbuilders available to press into service making warships, beyond the peacetime warship builders.
It’s no ship yard in Seattle.
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Besides, it's very nice in these scenarios to build your ships the same place that's sending cargo, so you don't have to risk an empty or low-priority cargo trip the wrong direction before you can load up with the good stuff.
Plus, governments change. The US could well end up on a different side of a conflict from some current allies, or those allies might remain neutral and so avoid behaving too-favorably to the US.
If we're talking about US/European allies vs China - then European allies have the ships and capacity to build more.
You have to give a concrete example where US would need to have a merchant fleet, where allies aren't willing to provide.
> If we're talking about US/European allies vs China - then European allies have the ships and capacity to build more.
Not necessarily enough capacity if you're losing tens of ships a month, and there's no guarantee those would remain intact, or that we'd even be on the same side. It's easy to assume stable, decent-enough, friendly governments will continue to be that way indefinitely, but they may not (for other actors, it's very much worth worrying whether the US will remain so, for instance)
> You have to give a concrete example where US would need to have a merchant fleet, where allies aren't willing to provide.
We literally have a real world example, which is far more valuable than made-up scenarios, that was arguably won primarily by US industrial capacity and the ships to direct that output to the right places, and it's still (barely, admittedly) within living memory. Among the most famous machines of that war is a class of merchant ship, for very good reason.
Unless we suppose that modern great-powers wars will be over so fast that shipping wouldn't have time to play a major role, or we think that anti-shipping weapons would be so effective and have such wide reach that no amount of shipping & protection could keep a meaningful proportion of a shipping fleet afloat for any useful length of time even if we started with a significant upper-hand overall—and I sure wouldn't want to bet on either of those things—it seems like that'd still be highly relevant in any major conflict in, at least, the near- to mid-term future.
I'm not a mind reader - what is it?
In the last World War, the US built a ton of cargo ships (about 6,000) to replace ships that were sunk and to increase shipment capacity in general. Allies weren't able to build ships fast enough. I'd imagine that capacity will be needed in the next world war, too. Having existing shipyards helps get production ramping sooner.
Certainly, ware has changed a lot in 80 years, but all out war is still going to need a lot of shipping, and cargo ships carrying war materiel are going to be fair game for sinking, and need to be replaced (as well as escorted). Industrial capacity and availability of fuel will continue to be necessary but not sufficient for success on the battlefield.
You understand that this is because the Jones Act makes shipping domestically prohibitively expensive. Which is precisely why ground shippers are insistent that the Jones Act remain on the books.
> I have 0 interest in building something that has little to no use in a free market.
If you see a free market there, you haven't read the article.
That's not what I wrote.
Water transport is much, much cheaper where there is not a burden, and is generally also more fuel-efficient per ton-mile. It should be possible for a wide variety of goods; the Mississippi alone is the largest river system in the ~~world~~. EDIT: North America, not the world
Mississippi is only the largest in the world after the Nile, Amazon, & Yangtze.
It's also good that the Mississippi is so navigable, pretty much all the way north-south through the country up to Minneapolis. The Nile is only really navigable to Aswan High Dam, the Yangtze and Amazon fare better on this metric.
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Nation states have goals that the free market doesn’t value like stability or risk mitigation. Keeping an industry that can become critical around in a reduced capacity so that you don’t need to bootstrap from scratch is to governments like purchasing insurance on a car is for an individual who relies on one for their income.
There is no equivalent section of the free market that is looking on multi decade long horizons for risk mitigation in the same way that governments do.[1]There are industries that care about risk mitigation on 30-50 year schedules for individual pieces of heavy industrial capital but there aren’t any that will actively run or subsidize factories building parts for a market they don’t participate in for decades on the off chance they might need to spin that up ASAP.
[1]generalizing here. I’m sure you can find a handful of companies who do this but unless they represent double digit percentages of the entire economy I’m not going to be convinced that it’s a sign of the free market valuing stability