ACT Test Scores Drop to Lowest Levels in More Than 30 Years
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> Fifteen out of the 23 states participating in the program require students to take the ACT in their classrooms during regular school hours, regardless of whether they plan to apply to college.
> The aim is to increase access to the college admissions exam to students who may not otherwise have the opportunity.
Makes sense to me… require more students to take an exam they otherwise wouldn’t have and you will get an average lower score. Students that choose to take the exam are more likely to be prepared for taking it, and thus will study more and achieve higher scores.
Regardless. Agreed that this is potentially a good thing for helping highlight which schools need more assistance.
Although these incentives should theoretically cause everyone to voluntarily disclose their SAT scores.
I was the kid who every year when asked what they did for summer said "nothing". I was the kid who missed homework assignments because of yet another argument or separation between parents at home last night where I played peacemaker. On my personal essays I had to lie and make up experiences I had never had because we simply did not have the money for a vacation or takeout.
GPAs, letters of rec, honors only prove that a student has a safe and secure environment and they are able to excel over a long term. That is a reflection of privilege.
For those of us who grew up in poor and broken households, standardized testing is the only chance for us to get a better life. Everyone who speaks out against it does so from a position of privilege because they have 0 idea what it's like to grow up in that type of environment.
For those of us who grew up in poor and broken households, standardized testing is the only chance for us to get a better life.
The suggestion that somehow there is a single path out of this sort of hell is overselling the point and over generalizing.
I grew up in a house where my parents were two warring alcoholics, one of which didn't want to have kids at all and the other didn't want the responsibility of raising them. And true enough, I didn't do well in the grades department... but I graduated, had some collected honors at graduation time, had the letters of recommendation I needed, and I absolutely participated in extra-curricular activities if anything to escape being home. Standardized tests? I took the ACT on a whim when my friend said he was going to go in the morning and asked if I wanted to join. I scored well (much better than I expected), not spectacular, just did well. Didn't really move the needle for me nearly so much as my ability to "work the room" with those that could help me get through school and onward as a sub-standard student. In the end I did fine.
My wife hits your points even closer. She was the child of poor immigrants whose mother was very severely schizophrenic. Between having no money and dealing with constant delusional and violent outbursts at home she managed to graduate high school as the school valedictorian (in a large metropolitan school), graduated with full honors, and received a full ride scholarship to her first choice school. She did the work because she knew if she didn't she wouldn't escape the hell of home she was in. Know what she didn't do well with? Her standardized tests. By the time she had reached high school she was prone to anxiety attacks and formal, timed tests were just too much. In fact later in life she wanted to take the GRE and go to graduate school and she couldn't get through the test without a full break down. Even so, she's done well in life despite it all.
But the point is that your expression of your experience is only that: your experience. For both my wife and myself, the standardized tests were simply not factors despite the hardships we faced. This is why anecdote isn't a good way to come to real knowledge... it might have been true for you but other's mileage will vary.
A high SAT score is like a ripped body: you can spend money on coaches, and they can help, but ultimately you need to lift the weight yourself.
I will get an sat tutor for my kids for sure and help them focus on it when the time comes. Opportunity requires a prepared mind.
Is it? There are likely many opportunities best pursued through vocational training rather than preparation for college. Given finite learning time, keeping students out of vocational training to improve test scores on a college preparation test is probably not the ideal outcome.
We should stop stigmatizing vocational training, and skilled trade work. The ACT doesn't test for student outcomes. Improving test scores may be counter-productive.
Journalism exists to sell newspapers, and "just a little thought would have made this a non-story" is the reason the headline is the way it is.
There’s a pretty broad base of evidence for this btw: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=7%2C39&q=cov...
The top three, which are the only ones I bothered to skim, have quality problems.
The third one seems to be the most cited so I spent the most time with it. It in effect reduces to “if you were hospitalized with COVID” you now have significant cognitive impairments, but from my brief reading there is no “before” so it could just as easily be titled “cognitively impaired people make bad life choices that lead to pre-existing conditions that lead to (exposure to and) hospitalization with COVID.”
Additionally the sample of N at 84k is misleading as only roughly 200 people are in their “significantly impaired” set.
It was a quick read, as I said, and I may have oversimplified, so if I’m wrong, please feel free to respond with corrections.
If – if! – we take it as a valid premise that cognitive impairment exists after COVID-19. In adults. And if we take it as a valid premise that this is exhibited in younger people too.
Then:
I find it interesting to think about how one would study progress or decline in an education system, i.e. to look at that system itself to maintain and increase quality of the system. And: if and how one can reveal or disprove a population-scale effect on cognition due to this particular illness.
Regarding cognitive deficits or impairment, I’m not focusing solely on brain damage as the cause, although it is known to occur. There’s also vascular and endothelal dysfunction, endocrine issues like abnormally low cortisol and blood glucose dysregulation, and immune dysregulation – T-cells in the brain (not good, not usual), and elevated inflammatory cytokines which are known to affect behavior. (This is all unsourced; There exist sources for it.) A lot of this is reversible. It’s not known that all of it is.
I think we ought to look at these issues. In this context. I’m interested in thinking about and discussing the scientific mechanisms with which to look.
There are a number of studies that show if you ask people about the long-term effects of any infection they will report similar numbers to what is being reported about coronavirus. You can take this to support the previous paragraph, or as an instance of placebo effect.
If you’re interested in how viral infection impacts brain function there’s a lot of cool information out there. I would not start in a speculative area like COVID-19. Maybe start with viral meningitis.
Alternatively if you want to stay speculative some people think that mutations related to our rapid evolutionary increase in brain size may have been in part down to zoonotic virus exposure a couple million years ago.
edit: Maybe you would enjoy The Tangled Tree by David Quammen.
> I’m curious why you think any of this should be novel to the coronavirus COVID-19. We are affected by every infection.
This review paper might summarize my inclination to consider SARS-CoV-2 different in this regard: “The Neurobiology of Long COVID” — M. Monje, PhD, Neurology at Stanford & A. Iwasaki PhD, Immunobiology at Yale. Publication status: In Print, Journal Pre-Print Available Online October 7, 2022 — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.neuron.2022.10.006
One paragraph mentions effects in children:
“Similarly, a 2-year a retrospective cohort study using the TriNetX electronic health records network of 1,487, 712 individuals with COVID-19 and a similar number of matched controls with a different respiratory infection found continued risk of cognitive impairment at 2-years from diagnosis (Taquet et al., 2022). In contrast to risk of cognitive impairment, the risk of anxiety and mood disorders normalized within 2 months following SARS-CoV-2 infection (Taquet et al., 2022). This TriNetX study provides some of the only available data about cognitive deficits in children and found in this retrospective cohort study that children did not exhibit an increased risk of anxiety or mood disorder diagnoses, but did exhibit increased risk of cognitive deficits (HR 1.2) and insomnia (HR 1.29) compared to children with different respiratory infections (Taquet et al., 2022). Unlike the adult cohort in this study, the risk of cognitive deficits in children normalized to the level observed in controls with a different respiratory infection by 491 days after COVID-19 (Taquet et al., 2022).”
There’s a lot more to the paper.
Referencing table S9 (for children) in the appendix/supplementary there are only four categories of illness where the p values are still possibly meaningful after correction: cognitive deficits, epilepsy or seizures, intracranial hemorrhage, insomnia
The two common conditions, cognitive deficits and insomnia, are only significant because of the arbitrary follow-up period selected of six months. If you examine the charts shown in Figure S1 in the same appendix, you can see that cognitive deficit has no long-term effect, and that actually COVID-19 seems to be protective in the longest term (as is the case with anxiety). This to me is suggestive of the fact that social aspects/expectations are dominating the reported symptoms for these common experiences. None of the symptoms, even insomnia, are quantified.
I can't find if/where they break it out by sub-classification but they seem to lump together real measurements of cognitive deficit with self-reports of brain fog. Similarly anxiety is not well-quantified.
For intracranial hemorrhage and seizures the effect is more pronounced, but as you can probably infer from the pixelation of the charts in S1 for these two, the sample sizes here (children with these symptoms), are tiny, and so the results are underpowered. If I wanted to keep looking this is the only avenue I'd consider.
As far as effects in other populations, they compare e.g. sinusitis and laryngitis on equal footing with lung infections resulting in hospitalization and possibly ventilation for COVID-19. That to me suggests there is the problem of confounding based on the impacts of reduced perfusion and oxygenation of brain tissues due to actual major lung infections that is more present in the COVID-19 data than the control dataset. A respiratory infection for this purpose ought to be something that can seriously impact perfusion and brain oxygenation -- they don't seem to have realized that and instead used "respiratory infections" without further qualification.
The Taquet et al study is the best study I've seen on it and I'm still totally unconvinced this is anything beyond hypoxic brain injury (and only minorly so -- in most survivors it seems to be primarily fear, hypochrondria or provider nudging).
The passage on the effect in children is a tiny part of the whole work. From the introduction:
COVID-19 may affect the central nervous system in (at least) six main ways (Figure 1). First, the immune response to SARS-CoV-2 in the respiratory system may cause neuroinflammation - increasing cytokines, chemokines and immune cell trafficking in the brain and inducing reactive states of resident microglia and other immune cells in the brain and brain borders. Second, SARS-CoV-2 rarely may directly infect the nervous system. Third, SARS-CoV-2 may evoke an autoimmune response against the nervous system. Fourth, reactivation of latent herpesviruses like Epstein-Barr virus may trigger neuropathology. Fifth, cerebrovascular and thrombotic disease may disrupt blood flow, disrupt blood-brain-barrier function, and contribute to further neuroinflammation and/or ischemia of neural cells. Lastly, pulmonary and multiorgan dysfunction occurring in severe COVID can cause hypoxemia, hypotension and metabolic disturbances that can negatively affect neural cells. It is important to recognize that these mechanisms of nervous system injury are not mutually exclusive, and a combination of mechanisms may occur in some individuals, with varying frequency and timing.
It has been shown that there are many markers for Long COVID, many of which present as neurological and cognitive issues. Two markers have been shown to be reliable and consistent: Patient reports – and unusually low cortisol levels. The other markers are things such as elevated inflammatory cytokines. Fear and hypochondria and provider nudging do not manifest in those ways. Also: Provider nudging? I have heard of nothing but universal and unscientific dismissal of anything COVID-related when people go to health providers for long-term issues. I don’t think that’s it.
I can’t see how this could be anything less than real, and how children could possibly be exempt from the effects. And we aren’t looking because we think we know it’s nothing.
But we certainly want to do analyses on why grades are dropping.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/08/30/what-fin...
Yes, and there's tons of that research out there if you care to look for it.
It would be nice to disprove it, right?
You're conflating multiple issues and misapplying the data.
If we're trying to study a problem, we should identify possible root issues. The problem of lower test scores have much better options to investigate. This is why the studies are focusing elsewhere. It's like saying the boat is sinking and we should study the rain instead of the hole in hull or the broken bilge pump.
I’m interested in how to study a known side effect of a disease which has been a global pandemic for two and a half years. How to study it at scale.
I’m not conflating it with the whole host of other reasons for the grades dropping, most of which are obvious factors and obviously bigger factors. The conflation is happening inside your head, somewhere from between your eyeballs and your fingertips. Respectfully.
You are of the opinion that it is obviously a trivial effect and not worth investigating especially. I disagree: I think we should look into it. I do not disagree in the way that I think cognitive deficits from COVID is the main driver of grades dropping.
Our opinions do differ, but not where you are saying we differ.
I think we should make sure we aren’t spilling solvents into the boat as they can degrade the hull. Why don’t you take a look at the bilge pump?
The majority of people aren't happy with having standardized tests because they block kids from feeling they have a shot at the top schools. But of course that's their function -- to sort.
So, public pressure calls for dropping objective measurements so that people feel better about it... but they aren't doing better. And muddying the waters to say that everyone should have an equal shot at going to a top school -- for reasons other than academics and using the resource efficiently. And the kids just stagnate in performance and everyone feels good about it, until you get kicked in the ass by reality and you find other countries who don't care so much about making people feel better are actually passing you by.
Or, their function is to evaluate macro trends in education.
But into what categories are they sorting? What if they are mostly measuring who is good at taking a test?
At my kids high school, they were in a program where they got to write a whole bunch of practice tests. From test-to-test, they did better and better. Some of the tests were close enough in time that their knowledge didn’t significantly change, but their scores improved. I attribute that to learning answers to questions that pop up frequently and to being less anxious after writing the nth practice exam.
Both of my kids did great at the tests eventually.
I recall with AP History back in the 90s, DBQ questions required some training to the form before sitting for the exam.
Just look at Harvard. Since they don't require any additional essays applying there is now literally just a button press away - wouldn't you?
If everyone's acceptance rate went down, then no one's ranking went up.
I never understood the pressure for highest SAT average. There are way more people with lower scores who want an education, and they don't want to go to a school where they have the lowest "aptitude" or preparation.
(if you define "minorities" to exclude the country's second largest, and fastest growing minority group)
The thread from last week showing that "Asian" kids' SAT scores crushed "White" kids' scores in Michigan was pretty eye-opening alongside the current Supreme Court cases regarding admissions and Asians.
One of my favorite opinion pieces about the SAT, from a few years ago, came from a black guy who grew up in rural Mississippi or somewhere like that. He argued that the SAT was the only thing that gave him a level playing field, where he could prove his equivalence, in college admissions against kids from elite private schools and wealthy public school districts. His position made sense to me.
I define Nevadans as a minority in the U.S. It is obvious that this standardized test discriminates against this minority.
Don't even get me started on people taller than two meters. ACT won't even show that data because it is so telling.
They are definitely different experiences, but nearly all drugs have different delivery mechanisms with different onset times and intensities and long-term consequences of using them. The crack-vs-powder cocaine difference is nowhere near, for example, the difference between smoking and injecting heroin. But that is not considered a different, more dangerous, more brutally punished drug if you inject it.
And more importantly the subjective experience of the delivery doesn't matter, the origin of the distinction is in the historical record. Crack cocaine was given different, much harsher, sentencing guidelines for unambiguously racist reasons, that then needed to be justified in the public consciousness.
Should I never use crack cocaine as a metaphor ever again?
More seriously, I'm not sure that we should worry so much that students didn't learn what we wanted them to learn for the last two years. Maybe they learned something else that might turn out to be beneficial someday.
On the other hand, I'm not sure how many "influencers" our society actually needs.
Couldn't it be that tests after the pandemic became harder?
I don’t recall the SAT doing this, but I’d assume they’re doing something similar.
Since the ACT tests reuse test questions, I'm guessing they aren't able to be transparent and you ultimately have to trust that the test makers know what they are doing.
Among other measures of difficulty, they have students preview the questions of future tests in a fifth, ungraded section, to make a correlation between their scores.
It appears the test method did start to change in 2020 [1], but it doesn’t seem that these changes would obviously affect performance. Perhaps many/most have moved to the computer based testing, and there could be some disadvantage there?
1. https://www.winwardacademy.com/act-announces-big-changes-ret...