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On TIOBE, Julia (27) and Rust (20) are relatively close right now, and TIOBE might have some correlation to number of users. https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

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TIOBE's methodology is a joke. I'm surprised it gets a mention on a forum like HN which tends to attract the sharpest minds in the industry.

We sure are all great on here aren’t we? Plaudits to everyone involved.

If you look at the IEEE top programming language list, it is still close. Believe it's Rust ranked #20 to Julia's rank of #28 (if my count is correct). https://spectrum.ieee.org/top-programming-languages-2022

And if you compare the IEEE to the TIOBE list, there appears to be a high degree of correlation. I think part of the criticism against TIOBE, is when people's favorite is not doing as well as they would like or a language they don't like is doing better than they expected.

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