I'm Peter Roberts, immigration attorney who does work for YC and startups. AMA
Previous threads we've done: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=proberts.
Previous threads we've done: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=proberts.
I’m currently exploring my options to raise a pre-seed round as a solo founder. Will I be able to stay in the Bay Area to start a company as a solo founder with some pre-seed and angel investors?
If not, will it be possible with an American co-founder? If not that, what is the best way for a Canadian technical founder to continue to stay in the Bay Area to startup?
I'm considering work for a US company on an O1 visa, but I hope to spend the majority of the time in my home country and make monthly trips to the US. I have no desire to acquire permanent residency.
I'm happy to be tax-resident while employed and have a mailing/residential address in the US, and I know it's a bit of a pain crossing the border under a visa, but is there a minimum "days in country" requirement to maintain O1 status, either contiguous or per annum? Or any other reason I wouldn't be able to use an O1 in this way?
If I could, how long would I have to use that unused time? Also, if I changed nationality, would I lose it?
1) What is the threshold for extraordinary? How is extraordinary established?
2) Is there a quota on the number of visas issued per year? Related, is there a quota on the number of visas per country of birth?
1) For O1 it's checking the boxes - one paper or one award is the same as 10 papers or 10 awards. Even for non-technical people where papers aren't really a thing, an article about a company was written in a high-profile website and that persons name was mentioned. He got an O1. I also know a strong competitive programmer (but no other achievements of value) who got it - presumably his masters thesis from 3-rd tier uni in Eastern Europe was used as "published research". So if you can work on checking the boxes - getting a patent / a published paper / an article about you in a reputable venue, you can get an O1. You just need 3 out of 9 or 10. So threshold is achievable if you work on it.
2) No.
We hired a bunch of machinists. This guy was worth his weight in gold and nobody ever asked "why did you bother to bring in someone from another country?"
Getting a paper published seems a relatively low bar - first year PhD students manage it just fine, someone working in industry should be ok doing it.
* It takes work to get those 3 boxes unless you already have them - so a typical contractor from Infosys or EPAM won't have them. For H1B you just apply. * H1B is cheaper (fixed fees vs 5-10k to prep O1 application) * H1B is actually in many ways a better visa! It's 3 years with 3 years extension, O1s are shorter, so for 6 years you'd have to do more than one renewal. H1B allows you to switch companies rather easily, for O1 you'd have to apply again.
So for some people the strategy is do H1B and if that fails (lottery), do O1 instead.
What is the easiest path for a founder who wants to eventually move to the US?
Here in the UK a particular amount of investment from within the UK can guarantee visas quite easily (TOTAL / THRESHOLD = No. Of Founder Visas).
Is there a similar path available in the US or is there an easier one perhaps?
Just wanted to note I thoroughly enjoyed reading through this post more than just an upvote's worth, thank you for doing it :)
Sometime, in the future, if I can have $800K to spare, then will go for EB-5. Although, this may take about a decade.
rather than London, ON, Canada ? :) I hear it's a lovely town.
Any specifics on this?
Looks like green cards may already lift the limitations, my bad.
How do they judge the thing, by the content of your phone or computer?
This sounds risky to me. Do you have any knowledge/experience of this?
I work for a US startup, but based in the UK (hired via an intermediary like Deel/Remote.com). At this point in time, are there any avenues to joining my colleagues in the US other than waiting for the H1B application window next year?
For example: DACA's existence helps both democrats and republicans. Helping or attacking DACA is profitable politically. Fixing DACA for good is not.
That was the same argument made about abortion but Republicans "fixed" it.
Fortunately, for most jobs I can start hiring them as remote workers. But that made me wonder: after they've worked remotely for some time could they then be brought in as an inter-company transfer? Or would H1 still be better for us and for them?
I am a Canadian citizen. My B.Sc. and M.Sc. are in mechanical engineering, but I have been working in the software industry as Software Developer and Data Scientist. Would I be eligible to get a TN to work in the software industry in the US? If yes, could you please refer me to resources to learn more about eligibility restrictions, e.g. details about what if any limitations I need to keep in mind when I apply to jobs in the US (e.g. if Data Scientist jobs are OK, but Software Architect jobs are not OK, etc.)?
Thank you!
How do we structure things to minimize and efficiently handle any taxation they incur?
Any difference in other countries, say South Africa or Poland?
What considerations should we take (if any) if we intend to support them coming to the states and becoming employees after turning profitable or a successful funding round.
The story is that Google posts very general, vague job descriptions then puts them through a rigorous interview process, and only once qualified by a hiring committee, are they potentially matched with a team who then is allowed to extend the offer.
However, a couple months ago Google paused hiring for a backlog of 'qualified' candidates that had passed the hiring committee (so, 'qualified' according to the job descriptions) but not yet found a team. Wouldn't this be breaking the PERM law if they offer any candidates a job needing sponsor when there are hundreds of permanent residents that have already been 'qualified' in their pipeline available for immediate hire?
How do PEOs impact both founder + employee immigration processes? (I'm assuming that having a different employer of record might have some consequences.) Would you advise startups to avoid a PEO if they intend to sponsor visas in the future for employees?
Say a US employer has about 1000 employees who are all residing in the US (so payroll is only set up to handle US taxes and so forth) because it was all commuters until the pandemic. Now there are many remote employees, and that won't change (i.e., no "return to office" unwinding of remote arrangements) so some are starting to move across the country. No problem.
When a remote employee says they're starting the process of moving to Canada and obtaining Canadian citizenship and prefers to keep their current job, how much effort goes into achieving that on the employer's side? Is it typical to convert their role from employee to contractor as a way to minimize the headache until there are many such employees?
There is risk in misclassifying employees as contractors in many countries.
2. If, for some reason (layoffs, company dissapears, etc.) the whole green card process is not finished, then it means that i will not be able to get a new TN visa correct?
As I understand it, a US non-profit hospital could relatively easily hire me under h1b (no caps for non-profits), or via TN1 through the clinical license if the position requires that.
But to get that clinical license usually requires internship hours/tests in the licensing state.
How does that work for TN? Would they hire as a physiotherapist student or intern and TN would be granted to move and work with that? And I guess I would want to get fully licensed by time of TN renewal?
Basically, yes you can continue doing your program, but your sponsoring employer might not be happy with you.
Thank you for taking time to do this.
For founders with spouses (either through marriage or common-law), where both spouses are from Mexico or Canada, what is the best visa for the founder and what visa should the spouse apply for (if he/she desires to work)? For the spouse, how do visa considerations change if the spouse has:
1. A liberal arts-oriented university degree
2. A STEM-oriented university degree
3. A law degree
4. A medical degree
5. An accounting degree
6. College diploma
7. No tertiary accreditation
Additionally are there any considerations if the spouse has a bachelors, masters or PhD/professional degree?
For children in such a scenario, what visa considerations would they have?
Two questions on L1-B visas:
1. Is it possible to meet the employee requirements (1 year within the last 3 years) if you worked for the sponsoring company via a ltd company (i.e. not a direct employee relationship)? I work remotely and hence have worked through a limited company. However, the ltd company has only ever had revenue from the sponsoring company and I am the only employee so it was purely set up like that for administrative reasons.
2. What is the easiest/quickest route for an L1-B visa holder to get a green card?
Huge thanks
I've been wondering for a while whether it's possible/practical to create a solo company (maybe Delaware LLC) in the US just to be able to offer and invoice my services as a software developer to US companies that look for US candidates.
I assume (please correct me if you think I'm wrong) that sometimes this requirement is because of taxes and bureaucracy, and my be could be overcome by hiring a US company services (owned and operated by a non US citizen/resident).
Thanks again for giving your time for this!
Cheers!
1. As a non-US citizen, you can establish a company in the USA today for ~$500 with Clerky/Stripe Atlas/AngleList Stack/Gust. You'll need to file additional forms due to foreign ownership, but otherwise, incorporation is a smooth process.
2 I hire international developers who bill me from their international companies all the time. There is no meaningful difference between them and US-based invoices, and there is no advantage with taxes or bureaucracy.
It is totally possible (or, at least, it was -7 years ago and I V don’t believe the roles have significantly changed in this regard) to go directly from an E3 to a GC. That’s what I did.
It requires a little extra planning however just to make sure you don’t go out of status while your I485 petition is pending.
I have a small team of founders. We've been developing an MVP of a product in the area of health and technology. We consider ourselves pre/early seed.
We are currently located in EU. And, we have incorporated our business in Canada. We intend to launch in North America.
Would be this be a case that YC is interested to support in terms of immigration and business development?
Thanks in advance.
Curious about why? And how
I want to take part in Iceland's long term remote worker visa to visit for 6 months
HR thinks this may be a tax liability, but the duration is explicitly less than long enough to be considered a tax resident
Is there an issue with the large corp having an office in Iceland or is HR being overly cautious?
(extra detail I don't think should matter: I'm Canadian, company is American)
Assuming your large corp / HR are friendly, they might even be willing to switch to a contractor relation (depending on the juristiction this might not be allowed, e.g. Germany is very tough on contractors as employees).
This prevents the biggest problem of large corporates. Being in the country with employees might make you a 'permanent establishment' and therefore liable for local tax law.
Worth looking into Estonia's e-residency program and suppliers like xolo.io (The leap product, not the Go product).
My team is remote, and I'm planning on moving to the Tahoe area, still in California, does my employer need to file an H1-B amendment? If yes, what could happen if I move and file an AR-11 change of address before the H1-B amendment is approved?
The NIW specifically waives the PERM, but everything else is basically the same. There's 2 parts:
- Advanced degree (ie masters or PhD) or exceptional ability, more specifically 3 of the following 6:
> An official academic record showing that the beneficiary has a degree, diploma, certificate, or similar award from a college, university, school, or other institution of learning relating to the area of exceptional ability;
> Evidence in the form of letter(s) from current or former employer(s) showing that the beneficiary has at least 10 years of full-time experience in the occupation in which he or she is being sought;
> A license to practice the profession or certification for a particular profession or occupation;
> Evidence that the beneficiary has commanded a salary or other remuneration for services that demonstrates exceptional ability. (To satisfy this criterion, the evidence must show that the beneficiary has commanded a salary or remuneration for services that is indicative of his or her claimed exceptional ability relative to others working in the field);
> Evidence of membership in professional associations; and
> Evidence of recognition for achievements and significant contributions to the industry or field by peers, governmental entities, or professional or business organizations.
For you patent + salary + winning competitions is probably good enough.
- Waiver is in the "national interest" of the US, which has 3 prongs:
> The person’s proposed endeavor has both substantial merit and national importance;
This may be the hardest portion for you. To quote the manual:
> In determining national importance, the officer’s analysis should focus on what the beneficiary will be doing rather than the specific occupational classification ... if the evidence of record demonstrates that the person’s proposed endeavor has the significant potential to broadly enhance societal welfare or cultural or artistic enrichment, or to contribute to the advancement of a valuable technology or field of study, it may rise to the level of national importance
Depending on what you and your startup does, this may either be very hard or very easy. You have to show that you'll be working on something that "may rise to the level of national importance", which hopefully your startup is doing.
> The person is well positioned to advance the proposed endeavor; and
You're already working as an engineer, presumably doing the thing you said you'll do in prong 1. A freebie.
> On balance, it would be beneficial to the United States to waive the job offer and thus the permanent labor certification requirements.
This also has 3 factors:
> The impracticality of a labor certification application;
> The benefit to the United States from the prospective noncitizen’s contributions, even if other U.S. workers were also available; and
> The national interest in the person’s contributions is sufficiently urgent, such as U.S. competitiveness in STEM fields.
Usually STEM people get through on the 2nd or 3rd part, especially if the factors in prongs 1 and 2 are good enough.
If I were you, I would focus your letters on the national importance of what you're doing and on the 3rd prong of how you'll be beneficial to the country. This is where lawyers are really helpful in drafting the letters, but you may choose to do that on your own. Read https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-6-part-f-chapter-... the entire chapter very carefully beforehand though.
If a startup is incorporated in one of the states from overseas, can founders be eligible for work-visas (I remember reading that an investment of more than USD500K may allow eligibility for some visas (F1?) but don't know if this is the case for startups, and besides, there were some requirements in terms of jobs creation if I remember well).
Thanks.
I'm European and I live and work in the USA (L-1B visa, no green card).
If my company sponsors a green card application, how long is the process? If they don't, what's the easiest option for me to move and work here permanently (including the right to change company, which I don't have now)?
Is the simplest way to achieve this to contact US-based recruitment agencies and look for companies who are willing to sponsor a work visa?
Is there a better way to go about this?
I'm also open to remote work, I'm guessing this would still entail having a US work visa.
How long should I expect to adjust status from O-1A to EB-1A? Further, how long should I expect to wait for Advance Parole? Would it be quicker to do consular processing in my home or a third country? If so how long would that take? I live in California, and I am a British Citizen.
Also, what options do I have to grow a project while I work full-time?
The fact I can't earn income from alternative work is a huge demotivator from starting anything for me. I won't know if I want to work full-time on a startup I found unless I see MRR first.
Are there any benefits to converting from a green card to citizenship, in the context of employment? Access to some government jobs is the only thing I can think of.
Can green cards be extended every time they are about to expire until someone retires, or is there a limit?
https://www.stilt.com/blog/2020/05/green-card-renewal-denied...
Also green card holder cannot live outside the US too long or they may revoke it. You can pre-apply for a reentry permit to get a longer window.
https://www.stilt.com/blog/2020/07/can-i-stay-more-than-6-mo...
Citizenship removes all those restrictions. Also you can petition for your parents to immigrate immediately.
I'm a Canadian on a TN visa at a startup in the US. Would it be possible to continue to work for this company on this status but stay in Canada?
Is there a minimum amount of time I need to spend in the US or can I just fly in for occasional onsite meetings?
Btw 100 years for a green card? I don't think Chinese citizens have such a long wait although Indians have to wait a long time.
While it sucks for an individual from a high-emigration country, if one of the goals of immigration policy is greater diversity, than country-based discrimination is a fair solution.
Do you have any insights into this process?
Thank you for the sharing knowledge!
Thank you very much
As per the handbook (https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-d-chapter...):
> An officer must review extended or frequent absences from the United States to determine whether an applicant has met the burden of establishing that he or she has maintained LPR status. This applies regardless of length of time or if the applicant was permitted to return to the United States as an LPR at the port of entry after the absence.
So even if you risk it it'll still reflect poorly during naturalisation.
What are some things someone like me, an engineer, can do to encourage the government to change the immigration process?
Regards
how would you suggest we should pursue this once all the paperwork is done? hire an immigration lawyer? any recommendations? we are non-YC.
Thanks for doing these AMAs!
If a Canadian living in US is on a TN status and is on disability for a serious illness when employment is terminated, what options are there to stay in the USA for the duration of the disability?
What can technologists do to help out the legal field, specifically in immigration land?
Is there something missing in the legal field that makes you think "this is 2022, this should be easier"?
It's an extremely tough category.
https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-6-part-f-chapter-...
Does EOR (Employer of Record) count for L1 visa? I guess either through the EOR, or through the employer that's using the EOR?
I saw that they may get preferential visas similar to Australians but couldn’t find much detail
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/14/paul-ryan-congress...
(It might help to say I am envisaging a similar AMA for a (different) partner who might explain pre-money valuations or best way to use SAFE or ways to find investors. I think I am interested in the general best practise if that makes sense?)
H-1B1: Chile and Singapore
TN: Canada and Mexico
E3: Australia