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1/3 of my kids have iPhone. The use of iPhones amongst them and their peers is directly related to their level of IT/Tech knowhow. Long story short the kids on android are probably gonna wind up building the tech the kids on apple consume. Or atleast that's how it's playing out amongst them atm. iPhone kids legit just take photos and short vidyas mostly of themselves. It's like you can correlate an iPhone with a toxic level of vanity and a lack of technical literacy amongst the teens.

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Doesn't match what I see. Tech knowhow is more likely correlated to whether the kid has a laptop or PC to play with rather than what OS is on their phone.

The iPhone ownership tends to roll on to the laptop/compute choice. And much lulz the apple kids are basically stuck in the realm of fisher price kids computers using apple.

They watch on in awe as the normal pcs play games, open any program they want and so on.

Tbh I actually find it quite depressing. I setup online games and score free stuff for the kids and half their mates can't even participate cus they are cucked by apples stubbornness and general refusal to play ball w the rest of the world.

Been on a slow mission to donate them all pcs. I run a micro msp so I get used gear regularly. Theyre all getting exposure to Linux too cus why the hell not.

Since we're trading anecdotes, none of the iOS engineers on my team have Android phones, but about half of the Android engineers have iPhones.

That's insane -- your engineers should be dogfooding their stuff. It's 2022.

In theory I agree, but we have something like 10k employees and millions of users per platform per day, so our code is pretty well vetted.

If you’re talking personal phones, that should have no bearing on your job. Your employer should give you the devices you need to do your work.

What they do with their own personal devices is their decision.

But the kids with the iPhones will be the financier controlling the purse strings. See the Commodore vs. IBM clones vs. Mac in the early 1980s. Apple wins because wealthy people use them, it's Apple's advantage.

I guarantee that kids who grow up to be financiers won't be a significant fraction of the 87%. Just like kids wearing Air Jordans when I was in school didn't all grow up to be pro ball players.

It's at least arguable that kids that grow up with the means to afford new iPhones will be more likely to have the means to go to a good college.

No disagreement there, but cargo-culting the iPhone isn't going to give poor kids rich parents

What's your evidence that Apple "won" because of computers bought by rich families in the 80s because last I knew after the mid 90s Apple got (checks notes) massacred in the computing world by Microsoft and the rest and really only won in the mid 2000's via consumer electronics with the creation of new markets that they've largely dominated since.

Android is definitely the road less traveled and I could totally get that kids using them would correlate with a larger mental toolbox.

But in their free time the android people building the tech stacks will be watching the iPhone influencers.

The irony that your own post displays a toxic level of vanity regarding technical competency but projects it onto the children.

What a weird generalization.

Ironically, it's a very Silicon Valley privileged child POV. The anecdotal observation is that some smart kids, usually the hardware-oriented tinkerers, use Androids because they're more customizable. It's certainly not universal.

Based.

Based on what?

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