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I think he's talking about the domestic operations. I would agree that the CIA and their sister organizations who operate internationally fit the description as well. Can't torture someone, well, take them to a friendly place where your buddy can torture them. Need to plant some FUD on a person? "an anonymous source in the intelligence community said that X did Y in Z." Unelected, Unaccountable and unchecked in every way.

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Frank Olson's[1] death is an example of possible/alleged CIA's internal operation. There are numerous other cases like this.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Olson

Discrediting Joseph McCarthy is another example of a CIA internal operation: https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/48603/did-the-c....

>Can't torture someone, well, take them to a friendly place where your buddy can torture them.

That reminds me of the technical equivalent with five eyes, and I've never managed to figure out how that is _not_ treason.

Oh, domestic organization X can't spy on you because of that pesky constitution, but they can "allow" a hostile agency from another country to do all the spying (and vice-versa) then "share" information.

Seems pretty clearcut, our domestic agencies are conspiring with a foreign power to defraud US citizens of their constitutional rights. People should go to jail for that, but somehow it's all considered legal

They can also dose US citizens with psychoactive substances without their consent or knowledge, start destroying the evidence and get away with it.

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