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It's true, few people are going to want to give themselves to Facebook and in live in their toxic platform. If Mark was smart (and honest with himself) he could've funded a completely different company appointed different management completely separate from Facebook and got started that way. I'm assuming he didn't because he sees Meta as his chance for keeping Facebook alive. Which is why I hate the idea of it even more.

I loathe Facebook. I could think of nothing worse than having Facebook strapped to my face and it's never going to happen for me.

The problem for Mark is, anything he innovates will be pretty easy to steal / copy and there will be a huge market for Apple (for example) to build something similar but more trustworthy for people to buy...this is all under the proviso that VR actually takes off. Personally, I'm not so sure it will because while I find it a fun novelty with some application, I feel there is too much value in being aware of my surroundings to go "all in".

Apple is so trustworthy that everytime they have an opportunity to adopt open web standards, they choose instead to not do that and re-implement something proprietary.

If Apple is the bellweather for tech in terms of privacy, all I need to do is point to their new revamped advertising division to say "lol"

There's a vast difference between intent and ability to make someone drink the coolaid.

Whether Apple are just as evil as facebook is immaterial. What matters is that every time someone expresses disgust at having silicon valley control and inspect every facet of their lives someone nearby will say 'what about apple, they're much hetter for privacy'.

Apple is the best of a bad lot.

What?

No, seriously... Apple created WebKit (former engine for Chrome, replaced by Blink) and basically pioneered many web standards. Even some standard HTML elements are Apple's creation, like canvas. Apple is literally a founding member of WHATWG.

That's not to say Apple doesn't deserve their share of criticism for various proprietary efforts, but at least recognize they've been a pretty big contributor to the web.

Apple didn't create webkit. They forked it from KHTML.

You had me til Apple. For me Apple is selling the idea that they are the ones to be trusted with privacy, i.e., power. And that's a hard pill for me to swallow.

I've been an Apple customer and a Facebook user for about the same duration.

In that time, Apple has taken many measures to improve security and privacy.

Facebook on the other hand has gone in the opposite direction, to the point of leaking data to hostile third parties and needing to be reigned in by the OS platform.

It's reasonable to trust Apple more than Facebook, simply based on demonstrated behaviour.

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