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In my experience, talking to a mac user about macs is like talking to a smoker about smoking. U can explain with facts how it's expensive and harmful, but u will never convince them to stop.

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@prange.. Windows LTSC or any kind of Linux u want, setup exactly how u want, on exactly the hardware u want. You know, like some kind of "personal computer" almost, which you the user have control over and can do what u want with.

Obviously the commenter I was replying to doesn’t think Linux or Windows are good enough, no matter how you ‘set them up’.

I've been using Linux on my Thinkpads for a while now. As well as many other machines. It does have some issues, primarily when it comes time to integrate with my smartphone, which is the primary issue here.

And before someone chimes in, yes I have used both the PinePhone and Purism platforms. They are promising, but not a suitable replacement yet.

The grandparent comment said there is nothing better. Stop and use what?

Haha, this thread is ripe for wordplay.

"Nothing is better than smoking" ;)

For sure - you can always give up on computers!

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