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Don't know about CIA conspiracies but I'm sure Saudi Arabians will protest Hijab mandates one day. Freedom is amazing and every human craves it at some level.

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Please don't take HN threads on generic flamewar tangents. This one went straight to hell, which is the opposite of what we're going for here.

Religious flamewar is particularly hellish and particularly avoidable. Let's avoid it.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33141230.

Freedom is amazing , true. But I am afraid you could be over optimistic saying that everyone craves it. Unfortunately many people have short-term goals that are more important for them than freedom…

The freedom to get naked in the streets yeah? Thanks but no thanks.

You’re correct that our goals and culture that promotes purity and piety is more important than what the secular West defines as “freedom”

Ah yes, the typical astounding secular definition of freedom, equating it with nakedness and vices. I’ll tell you something, the vast majority of the Saudis are proud of the Hijab and their Islamic faith that promotes purity and decency. We don’t want the western definition of “freedom” thank you very much, we’ve seen where it leads

It leads to people showing the hair in their heads, that is the normal way in our species. Including the majority of the muslim population and the majority of the human population.

If you think this is the same as being naked in public or that women's hair is impure, well... You live in a very sad place and deserve compassion. It really sucks to be you, but your pain is self-inflicted.

Enjoying the feminine grace and beauty is one of the greatest pleasures of being alive. Imagine yourself sit in a caffee three months from now watching by the first time an endless stream of smiling happy, "naked" women. If this image don't puts a smile in your heart, then something terrible must had happened to you

How does GP's statement have anything to do with "nakedness" and "vices". Those appear to be your words, dude.

Besides, the woman that was killed in custody that started this whole mess in Iran was hardly "naked", quite far from it.

It's not the west's fault that people lack so much self-control they can't handle anything but a hijab. In my opinion that speaks incredibly poorly, if anything that means folks shold spend more time looking inward than foolishly crying out for divine protection

Moralism is far more responsible for a society's ills than "decadence" ever will be

The slippery slope is real. And as far as we're concerned, taking the Hijab away is one very obvious step in that direction. Just look at history.

I'm not defending the Iranian regime by the way.

You're straw manning to assume that the Hijab's only reason is lack of self control. It's one part of many things that we have in Islam to preserve morality and purity. For example, both men and women are ordered to lower their gaze.

I'm not moralizing here. I'm defending my religion and land from the assumption of the secular west that they're here to liberate us from "oppression".

You posted dozens of flamewar comments in this thread. That's extreme, and you have a history of doing it and ignoring our requests to stop. I've therefore banned this account as well as some others. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. Religious flamewars are not what this site is for.

Frankly, all the other commenters who jumped straight into the pit of hell with you are more responsible than you are, but we can't have people abusing HN this egregiously.

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