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The hardware is great, but I can't bring myself to buy anything that requires running Logitech's software.

I've heard elsewhere Logitech devices are laggy on bluetooth. Why isn't this an issue for Apple and other manf?

I've moved from mech keyboards with O-ringed MX blues to pretty much using the Apple magic keyboard and trackpad anytime I'm at the desk. Sometimes I still reach for the clicky-claky, but integrated Touch-ID is so useful I've taken a liking to using the Apple magic keyboard (with touch id) and grown accustomed to the feel.

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> The hardware is great, but I can't bring myself to buy anything that requires running Logitech's software.

This is why I like their G series mice, even though I'm not a gamer. You can configure them, and they'll remember the settings on their on-board memory. They're also supported by Piper on Linux, so you never have to touch the crappy Logitech software.

I also have one of their trackballs, and it's a pain having to make sure the software runs so that the sensitivity is the correct one. It does Unifying and BT, and I've actually been impressed with how well the latter works. I don't feel any difference between that and the Unifying dongle, be it on a current-gen Linux PC or on an old MBP.

This isn't applicable to the G-Series, but the MX Master and M720 (plus some other niche models) support smooth scrolling, which can only be enabled on Windows and macOS using their 300-or-something Electron app that nags you to sign in to their stupid cloud service. Of course the basic features (pointer/scrolling speed) can still be configured within the OS.

> Why isn't this an issue for Apple and other manf?

I wonder whether this is but people just don't notice because they can't directly compare.

I can compare with the built-in keyboard/trackpad for my laptop or with wired hardware. Which I assume all have zero latency. So I think I'd notice if there was significant latency on any of my bluetooth devices...

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