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Looking at the new videos related to the upcoming Quest Pro that will be announced next week, the simulavr guys are dead wrong.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AR_MR_XR/comments/xwjzni/meta_quest...

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What you're seeing: a Meta headset tethered to a laptop over WiFi running Immersed.

What you're not seeing: a standalone VR headset running a VR Desktop OS natively with bleeding edge pixel density (i.e., like the Simula One).

We understand that Meta has some cool tools in its app store which can be used to get a feel for VR computing. But analogously, you could also purchase word processors for early gaming consoles too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AtariWriter

Our view is that dedicated VR computing devices are what the market actually needs.

apple would agree

Does Simula's tethered option affect this calculus?

A bit, but not much. Our tethered option is for people who want to connect to beefier hosts because they need the extra GPU power (or want to use our headset's high pixel density for gaming purposes). We've sold very few of them though. Our primary offering is our standalone unit.

If that image is showing what I think it is (because I might have written a part of it if it is), that's not actually tethered.

Is it really fair to call 8 bit Atari computer line (on which AtariWriter runs) gaming consoles? They had built-in keyboards, had built-in BASIC, would let you attach peripherals like a disc drive or a printer and let you program in assembly. And could be expanded with RAM expansions and 80 column cards. Of course the later XEGS blurred the line but it's also a bit like suggesting the Amiga or Macintosh were not computers because of the Commodore CD32 and Apple Pippin were a thing.

> Our view is that dedicated VR computing devices are what the market actually needs.

My view is the market needs a product that does not require an internet connection, Facebook account, Microsoft account, windows PC, or equivalent restriction-ware.

Wait, is that demo rigged? The keyboard in passthrough is not the keyboard of the MacBook.

Definitely some demo-only things going on there. Pass through keyboard is different, and this person just happens to go in to a meeting where the table is in the same orientation and size as the one in his house/office?

The AR pass through in that clip blows the simulavr pass through wayyyyy out the water!!!

We're working on camera boards now for our AR Mode (it will likely be featured in our an engineering update next week). After our boards are finished (~2-4 weeks), we'll be able to integrate them into our review units for our first integrated camera tests.

That clip is a demo with a heap of demo-magic going on.

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