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How did you miss PHP in that list of languages? It’s the most popular web development language. It has 2 very popular web frameworks (Laravel and Symfony, although Laravel seems to have the bigger developer community) and the language has been evolving in a pretty good direction.

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PHP is an insignificant, declining language outside of WordPress, Joomla, and Drupal. Those three combined are ~90% of all sites running PHP[1].

I'd wager that most of the remaining PHP sites are wikis and legacy applications that are too painful to port.

1. https://kinsta.com/php-market-share/

> Those three combined are ~90% of all sites running PHP[1].

How are you getting that number? From the link you referenced, the percentages are Wordpress: 40%, Joomla: 2.6%, Drupal: 1.7%

Did you actually read the article you posted? It states that 79% of sites are using PHP. WordPress is 40%, Joomla 2%, Drupal 1%. So no, they don't combine to ~90% of PHP sites, far from it!

The article even concludes with: "PHP is far from dead, no matter what any disgruntled developer may tell you. After all, 79.2% of all websites in the world can’t all be wrong, and most importantly, PHP’s market share has remained relatively steady throughout the last five years (oscillating between 78–80%). Few programming languages command that type of staying power."

PHP powers a lot of legacy code bases, yes. But there are also a lot of job opportunities in Laravel and Symfony which are both very good frameworks.

PHP is in decline.

It's getting ever harder to find good PHP developers.

PHP will be around forever, but it's getting less popular.

The fact that a lot of WordPress websites exist in the wild doesn't make it the most popular web dev language...

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